You're the GM this offseason. What do you do?

[LoPo]

Every single Jazz fan should be showing Russell and Tobias the most love possible the next few weeks. I'm saying it's gonna happen, but I'm hoping like hell is does.

Russell or Harris 2019

I considered doing the exact same thing with that same picture earlier today. I’m scared now...

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[NUMBERICA]

So all reports say the Nets open up $46 million cap space by doing the Crabbe trade. Russell has a cap hold of over $21 million. So if they renounce Russell, they have around $67 million in cap space.

Durant can get $38 million. I can't find the exact amount Kyrie can get. So it does seem like Brooklyn still has some wheeling and dealing to do before being able to sign Kyrie AND KD.

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Ah. The 35% max on KD.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Ah. The 35% max on KD.

Yeah... if its Kyrie and Jimmy they are good. KD gets more money. Everyone always say guys can take a small paycut, but I get the impression its an ego thing and they will push back.

It would make sense that if you have Kyrie, KD, Caris that you have a fair amount of creation and don't necessarily need it from Spencer... I think he'd be the one to go. I think he's absolutely worth a first, but not two... so imo it would be a first plus another asset (maybe Grayson, maybe a second, maybe a gift certificate to Applebee's).

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

So all reports say the Nets open up $46 million cap space by doing the Crabbe trade. Russell has a cap hold of over $21 million. So if they renounce Russell, they have around $67 million in cap space.

Durant can get $38 million. I can't find the exact amount Kyrie can get. So it does seem like Brooklyn still has some wheeling and dealing to do before being able to sign Kyrie AND KD.

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Yes, but they can do it easily... which is why they will wait. If they have those guys ready to go can work a deal with Dinwiddie... worst case I think there would be like 10 teams willing to take Harris into space and would give a second round pick on top of it.

 

[Bawse Dawg]

Now I'll be super bummed if we don't get D'Lo or Tobias.

But I really don't think our odds are great. All the whispers are hype inducing though.

 

[LoPo]

Ah. The 35% max on KD.

What can Kyrie get? Is it $32.7 even if he is "supermax" eligible? Tobias is eligible for $32.7.

So if Kyrie is $32.7, the Nets have just enough to give them both (they have $47). If Brooklyn was a few million away from affording KD AND Kyrie, why would they take back Prince if Prince's salary could get in the way of affording KD?

I think Brooklyn has Kyrie in the bag and also a great feeling about Tobias. If they get KD instead, they make the salary dropping moves. If they don't which is likely, they roll out Kyrie and Tobias and flip a big finger to East rivals Boston and Philly.

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[LoPo]

Yeah... if its Kyrie and Jimmy they are good. KD gets more money. Everyone always say guys can take a small paycut, but I get the impression its an ego thing and they will push back.

It would make sense that if you have Kyrie, KD, Caris that you have a fair amount of creation and don't necessarily need it from Spencer... I think he'd be the one to go. I think he's absolutely worth a first, but not two... so imo it would be a first plus another asset (maybe Grayson, maybe a second, maybe a gift certificate to Applebee's).

Yeah, in addition to my last post:

It could be Kyrie for sure and a very good feeling about either Butler OR Tobias. Butler makes more sense because they got Prince to play the 4.

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[Handlogten's Heros]

What can Kyrie get? Is it $32.7 even if he is "supermax" eligible? Tobias is eligible for $32.7.

So if Kyrie is $32.7, the Nets have just enough to give them both (they have $47). If Brooklyn was a few million away from affording KD AND Kyrie, why would they take back Prince if Prince's salary could get in the way of affording KD?

I think Brooklyn has Kyrie in the bag and also a great feeling about Tobias. If they get KD instead, they make the salary dropping moves. If they don't which is likely, they roll out Kyrie and Tobias and flip a big finger to East rivals Boston and Philly.

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Kyrie is eligible for the 32M max... so they have some work to do. Prince makes peanuts and is an asset. I think they are a few million short, but KD may not be the most likely get. They are an easy half step away from being able to get enough for KD and don't have to do anything if it is Kyrie and Jimmy.

For some reason I don't think its Kyrie and Tobias... Kyrie has been linked to both KD and Jimmy. If the Knicks were under different ownership I'd think they would both go there. Brooklyn makes a lot of sense for those guys personality-wise and they have better functional pieces in place to help. Knicks have asset pieces, good picks, and some intriguing prospects... vets like KD and Kyrie don't care much about that stuff unless it turns into players they think can help now.

 

[LoPo]

Kyrie is eligible for the 32M max... so they have some work to do. Prince makes peanuts and is an asset. I think they are a few million short, but KD may not be the most likely get. They are an easy half step away from being able to get enough for KD and don't have to do anything if it is Kyrie and Jimmy.

For some reason I don't think its Kyrie and Tobias... Kyrie has been linked to both KD and Jimmy. If the Knicks were under different ownership I'd think they would both go there. Brooklyn makes a lot of sense for those guys personality-wise and they have better functional pieces in place to help. Knicks have asset pieces, good picks, and some intriguing prospects... vets like KD and Kyrie don't care much about that stuff unless it turns into players they think can help now.

Good points.

If KD goes to NY while Kyrie and Butler go to Brooklyn, I think that's amazing. It would be an incredible development for the league. The East gets more balance (Philly and Boston both lose stars) and the best team loses one of their best two players with KD leaving.

From there....

- who stays and who goes from Milwaukee?

- does Tobias re-up with Philly because they can pay more or does he bail?

- where does Russell go?

- does Kemba join KD in his hometown NY?

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[Handlogten's Heros]

New dream scenario... The math is very close, but I believe we could trade Jae and a 2020 1st for Dinwiddie and the difference in salary would be enough to give them room to sign KD and Kyrie. They are currently just a couple million short and Jae makes 2.8M less than Spencer.

If we waive Favs, waive and stretch Korver or just waive him and neto, we then have enough to sign Tobias to a max deal. I'm not sure its the ideal fit and we could do other things with that space (maybe just keep Favs and sign another $10-12M FA), but if we could get Brooklyn to agree ahead of time or on July 1 we could then go shopping.

 

[LoPo]

New dream scenario... The math is very close, but I believe we could trade Jae and a 2020 1st for Dinwiddie and the difference in salary would be enough to give them room to sign KD and Kyrie. They are currently just a couple million short and Jae makes 2.8M less than Spencer.

If we waive Favs, waive and stretch Korver or just waive him and neto, we then have enough to sign Tobias to a max deal. I'm not sure its the ideal fit and we could do other things with that space (maybe just keep Favs and sign another $10-12M FA), but if we could get Brooklyn to agree ahead of time or on July 1 we could then go shopping.

I'm all for that. Farfetched, but I love it.

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[Mongoose]

I'm honestly don't understand why someone would be in full support of getting Conley and be so utterly disappointed with Love. I admit I haven't watched either one of them play all that much, but to me it seems like acquiring either one should be viewed pretty similarly. Conley is older and more expensive, he might provide a little more defensively at his position but the Jazz are giving up significant size (because of the loss of favors and they are likely starting Crowder at the 4 and DM at the 2). They both have the kind of game that should age okay, but they both have also missed a significant amount of games over the last couple of years. I don't think of either one as a great consolation prize, but If I'm giving up Favors and filling in so much salary I think I'd rather have Love, because hes's younger, cheaper, and I think he fills a bigger need. I just dont want another old PG rental especially at Conleys price.