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The Jazz FO told Corbin to develop a defensive identity...

Hardly luck. You could see the difference in the Jazz at the beginning of last season, even though they weren't very good. Quin is molding this team.

It was. Rhetorical question. I agree it's not luck. Jazz put a lot of effort into building a team. But luck does play its role. As in they lucked out that Gobert was so good.
 
Because when you thought you finally stopped hearing Jazzfanz bring up Corbin, someones makes a Corbin thread.
 
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Corbin gave them an over-the-hill vet identity instead.

To be fair - and franklin will tell you I was one of Corbin's biggest critics - Lindsey didn't give Ty much to work with. Gobert was an extremely raw rookie who often looked totally lost. Favs has really come on the last 1+ years and Hayward is concentrating more on defense. It wasn't like Snyder came in and waved a magic wand, Utah was horrible last year on defense with Kanter as a starter. Gobert has been the cornerstone. And he just wasn't ready as a rookie to play more than 10-15 mins/per. Look at the roster Ty had: 5-6 NBA players and the rest scrubs or rookies.
 
Even with Gobert on the team, Corbin said lets send him to the Dleague and give biedrins min instead
 
Even with Gobert on the team, Corbin said lets send him to the Dleague and give biedrins min instead

That's just not true. Biedrins played in SIX games for a total of 45 minutes. Gobert averaged 10 mins/per for 45 games. Not a lot, but Rudy looked like a lost puppy out there. The rotation at the 4/5 was Kanter, Favors, Marvin Williams and Evans. The only "vet" that saw significant time was Richard Jefferson. He should have been limited and more minutes given to Burks. In hindsight, Kanter should have also averaged 30+, Then again, the mandate was defense and Kanter was the worst defender. RJ wasn't very good, either. Ty was set up to fail.Had he been a better soldier, I think he could have kept his job. DL barely convinced Gail to let Ty go.
 
To be fair - and franklin will tell you I was one of Corbin's biggest critics - Lindsey didn't give Ty much to work with. Gobert was an extremely raw rookie who often looked totally lost. Favs has really come on the last 1+ years and Hayward is concentrating more on defense. It wasn't like Snyder came in and waved a magic wand, Utah was horrible last year on defense with Kanter as a starter. Gobert has been the cornerstone. And he just wasn't ready as a rookie to play more than 10-15 mins/per. Look at the roster Ty had: 5-6 NBA players and the rest scrubs or rookies.

but corbin sent message that defense does not matter al Jefferson minutes where guaranteed.
so we always hear about stock malone being held to same standard as everyone else on team.

well jefferson was not held to that standard,
the amount of mistakes or lack of defense you where allowed was a direct correlation on the years you played in nba.
 
He didn't do that. They fired him. They hired Quin Snyder and told him to develop a defensive identity. Jazz are best defensive team in the NBA.

The front office gave him big Al, Kanter, and skinny rookie Gobert. If Ty had benched Al and Enes and given Gobert 48 minutes, they would have been awesome.

Maybe a tiny bit unfair to Ty?
 
The front office gave him big Al, Kanter, and skinny rookie Gobert. If Ty had benched Al and Enes and given Gobert 48 minutes, they would have been awesome.

Maybe a tiny bit unfair to Ty?

It's not about Ty, this thread is about Snyder. The guy created a top tier defensive team after one year.

That was his assignment and he did it in amazing fashion.

I can't wait until his assignment is to win a championship.
 
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