GOP Debate Threads

[Deleted member 848]

I agree with that!

yeah lets just keep spending on making sure that corporations still have their tax loopholes I mean that seems to be a bigger priority than the health of American citizens

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

Ted mother ******* Cruz says hi.

Hi Ted mother ****ing Cruz.

 

[b_line]

Hi Ted mother ****ing Cruz.

Aren't you going to elect him president then go on a 7 year tirade demanding a long form birth certificate?

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

Aren't you going to elect him president then go on a 7 year tirade demanding a long form birth certificate?

I don't anticipate electing him president but if I did I wouldn't be the one going on a tirade. I was never on an Obama tirade either. I'm confident that no matter who gets elected someone will be going on a tirade, though.

 

[One Brow]

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

From you, I expect laughter as a substitute for evidence.

 

[One Brow]

Whether or not the attack was motivated by the video is irrelevant. The important part of the difference between the story that Clinton told the victim's families and the American public was whether or not it was a planned attack.

I notice that the importance of these communications occurring at different times, with different amounts of intelligence, does not seem to factor in your analysis of why there were different conclusions.

The facts are that we know without question

Today.

that it was planned. We also know that the ambassador requested military support and that aircraft were initially deployed but then told to stand down by the Hillary led State Department.

Please provide any evidence of Clinton's involvement of some order to stand down.

There are plenty of articles available about all the aspects of this debacle if you want to learn. Here are some examples from mainstream sources:
https://www.cnn.com/2015/03/27/politics/hillary-clinton-personal-email-server/

Trey Gowdy's statement has been proven false. The very next link you offered showed it was a lie. Does it bother you at all that you present known lies as evidence?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-fbi-pulls-deleted-emails-from-hillary-clintons-server/
https://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015...s-email-to-chelsea-stars-in-benghazi-hearing/

Neither of these offer any answers to my questions.

There is even more damning information from right wing sources which I will not bother showing you because I know you would discount them.

I believe in evidence, regardless of the source. If your sites offer evidence instead of propaganda, rhetoric, or rumors, I'll believe it. If you have more Trey Gowdy quotes, you need not bother on my account.

If, like the majority of liberals, you believe that the mainstream media is centrist,

Fox News is centrist?

BTW, I'm sure that if a conservative politician was ordered to turn over documents but responded by instead deleting them, asserting that they had the right to determine what was personal and what was not, you would be perfectly fine with that, right?

People of either party are foolish if they think deleting actually means anything. Outside of that, why would I care?

The bottom line is that you are attempting to take a stance that many people already believe is impossible to support, and which I believe that you (if you have a shred of intellectual honesty) will soon have to abandon as well.

I await actual evidence.

 

[One Brow]

CBS, NBC and ABC are all liberal.

To an arch-conservative, they seem liberal. To an arch-liberal, they seem reactionary. I see just as many complaints about the conservatism of the media amongst liberal commentators.

The reality is their bias is towards sensationalism and ratings.

 

[RandyForRubio]

yeah lets just keep spending on making sure that corporations still have their tax loopholes I mean that seems to be a bigger priority than the health of American citizens

Who here is saying that's what they want? We're intelligent here, let's make intelligent arguments, yeah?

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

I notice that the importance of these communications occurring at different times, with different amounts of intelligence, does not seem to factor in your analysis of why there were different conclusions.

You're clearly going to cling to your version of events despite the established facts, but I will give you a timeline once again. If you honestly believe upon studying this that the Clinton and the administration handled this in a reasonable fashion then we will just have to agree to disagree.
https://www.factcheck.org/2012/10/benghazi-timeline/

Please provide any evidence of Clinton's involvement of some order to stand down.

Clinton headed the state department. I do not give her a pass for orders her department generated. This is important stuff and the leaders of the department must be held responsible. Either she or someone who she placed extreme confidence in had to be behind this. If not that means she did a terrible job of organizing and running her department.

Trey Gowdy's statement has been proven false. The very next link you offered showed it was a lie. Does it bother you at all that you present known lies as evidence?

Yes, that bothers me. I did not know about the lies. I will research it and determine what impact it has on the story.

Fox News is centrist?

Fox News is right wing.

People of either party are foolish if they think deleting actually means anything. Outside of that, why would I care?

Seriously?

I await actual evidence.

Looks to me like what you are waiting for is confirmation of your bias. Since that's not going to come your strategy is apparently to deny the evidence that does arrive. That's your prerogative, but there's no point in discussing this further given your .
continued denial of the evidence.

 

[Deleted member 848]

Who here is saying that's what they want? We're intelligent here, let's make intelligent arguments, yeah?

the fact of the matter is that billions of dollars are being allocated in that direction. Where is the conservative pressure to stop this?

 

[colton]

yeah lets just keep spending on making sure that corporations still have their tax loopholes I mean that seems to be a bigger priority than the health of American citizens

I'm not sure how you get that from my simple agreement that Sanders' plan will involve substantially raising taxes, but whatever.

 

[Deleted member 848]

I'm not sure how you get that from my simple agreement that Sanders' plan will involve substantially raising taxes, but whatever.

if we can afford to not tax people justly, we can afford healthcare