Which is? I'm serious. I thought the topic was the art of argument.
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Which is? I'm serious. I thought the topic was the art of argument.
Joe Bagadonuts
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Protestors throwing burning t-shirts, rocks and bottles at police. Several police injured. Rocks thrown through convention center windows. Security dragging protesters from the stands. People burning American flags and waving Mexican flags. Protestors screaming profanity at police and at Trump supporters. Fighting. At one point a horse was knocked down by a surging wave of charging protestors. People dancing on police cars. Police in riot gear shooting off tear gas and smoke canisters. Police eventually getting rough with some protestors (they endured a ton of abuse before they finally started reacting to it). It was crazy. Chicago was very bad too, and there have been some violent ones in California as well.
♪alt13
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I can see how that would be rough. The comment that equated you to an extremist simply because you are Muslim was uncalled for and wrong. You'll probably achieve things beyond what I could hope to. I hate to see people with so much good going on and so much potential left in them become cynical and jaded. To be drug down by the ramblings of the least common denominator. I don't know if that's where you are but you have come across as a harsher person lately.
Not sure. But it's definitely not about Babe's nature hikes, GMOs, and progressives reducing the population. Babe needs an editor.
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I'm not. I'm hella idealistic (as young people are), hopeful, and optimistic. I'd rater throw myself at something and fail 10 times than never try at all. I'll feel like my life is a waste if I don't try and do something with it. It's perceptive of you to want to keep ppl engaged-- it's probably the best thing you could do for your daughter as you raise her. Tell her how much of a difference she could make; tell her to chase her passions, and that she can do anything she sets her mind to doing.
Not really. If you think trying to silence people with violence isn't a sign of fascism, then we'll just have to disagree on this.
Wow, you can cut the condescension with a knife.
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a violent uprising against a political rally isn't unequivocally an attempt at silence. That's a misunderstanding, and a superficial analysis of the forces at play here.
pls point out the inaccuracies in that statement.
Joe Bagadonuts
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I'm pretty sure I've never insulted you, though we clearly disagree on many political issues. It has become common for you to insult me. I recognize that we have different backgrounds and I have told you on several occasions how much I admire you for what you have accomplished and the way you express yourself.
I doubt this matters to you (though I think it would have a year ago), but your voice is becoming less important to me because of the way you now express your ideas. You might not intend it, but they appear to come from a place of hate. You've made it clear how much you despise America. You've made it clear how biased you feel against people of my background or my political beliefs. In my opinion you would be far more likely to change my mind or the minds of other readers by communicating in the way that you used to rather than attacking with personal insults and venom.
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America has been the world's greatest & most important country for the past 200 years. Also, calling you a WASPy American isn't an insult, it's a (very likely) fact. White Anglo-Saxon protestant.
It's tough being nice and not pissed when i see some of the things posted here. Voicing support for Trump and calling protesting Mexicans fascist is so, so damaging.
Joe Bagadonuts
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WASPy is a disparaging term, but I guess it's okay to use disparaging terms for the group I happen to be a member of, right?
I have never called protesters fascist. The most positive thing I've said about Trump is that he's not as bad as Clinton and I could conceive of an outcome where he'd actually be a good president. So the reasons you use to justify your use a disparaging term to describe me aren't even true. How would you feel if I used a similar type of term to describe the group you belong to?
How would you feel if I used a similar term to describe any other group besides the one you feel so comfortable disparaging? Do you actually believe that using a term like that advances the arguments you are trying to make?
Trump.
The tactic for responding to Saul Alinsky acolytes by changing the subject to personal character attacks in the first place to force the Alinski-ites to respond with self defense. Hit'em first, and harder. They deserve it.