They did it to us again!

[NAOS]

Sorry, I don't get the Millsap's uncle reference. Must be from a thread I've missed. DL was the GM. No matter what he's said, the buck stops at his desk.

you're the only poster on JFC that isn't allowed to forget crazzy-azz references to Millsap's Uncle.

 

[Stoked]

And to those who say it was a weak draft, the "Burke" draft was likewise considered one of the worst ever for depth. Yet players like Giannis, Schroeder and Gobert were picked after #12. There are ALWAYS gems to be found. You don't just burn assets needlessly. DL didn't really care about this draft. So he didn't get a better deal for our lottery pick. And that's a shame. If in 4 yrs were not talking about a couple of all-stars or very good starters that emerged from this draft at #12 or lower, I'll quit the board.

DL got a fantastic deal for our lottery pick. Hill directly addresses several huge needs. The lists have been made.

It does not matter what possible stars there are in up to 4 years from this draft. It matters what Hill does for Utah this season and if he re-signs. It was not a needless burn of assets. It was a very good use of them.

I like you, you're a good dude but man you and I almost always disagree on the Jazz. Personally I don't want you to quit the board. I feel that declarations like that are overly dramatic.

 

[framer]

And to those who say it was a weak draft, the "Burke" draft was likewise considered one of the worst ever for depth. Yet players like Giannis, Schroeder and Gobert were picked after #12. There are ALWAYS gems to be found. You don't just burn assets needlessly. DL didn't really care about this draft. So he didn't get a better deal for our lottery pick. And that's a shame. If in 4 yrs were not talking about a couple of all-stars or very good starters that emerged from this draft at #12 or lower, I'll quit the board.

The Jazz turned the #12 into a starting caliber point guard, probably a top 15 pg that plays defense and hit the accurate 3 ball. That is huge. Think of all of the open 3's Exum, Neto, and Burke are given in the offense. Now imagine a proficient shooter getting that shot. It was the best possible move in this dungheap of a draft.

Yes there are good players that can be taken late, and the Jazz are better than most teams in identifying them. How many players in that range did the Jazz work out? How good is our European scouting? If they didn't see anything valuable, it likely wasn't there. Again, those second round value picks were going just after the lottery (in in the case of Prince at #12, IN the lottery.) People get attached to the draft, but some drafts just truly suck, and this is one of them. Next year DOESN'T suck and we have assets out of the wazoo. We might even have more after extricating ourselves from Burke and Neto.

To finish, if there was a chance for a stud coming out of the second round, it was Bolonboy, and we got him AND a few million.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

DL got a fantastic deal for our lottery pick. Hill directly addresses several huge needs. The lists have been made.

It does not matter what possible stars there are in up to 4 years from this draft. It matters what Hill does for Utah this season and if he re-signs. It was not a needless burn of assets. It was a very good use of them.

I like you, you're a good dude but man you and I almost always disagree on the Jazz. Personally I don't want you to quit the board. I feel that declarations like that are overly dramatic.

Lol at asking Stifle not to be overly dramatic.

 

[SCS]

They traded back their first pick in the second round, they picked the guy from Weber St. who is actually a popular choice, then they just took the best guy possible at #60. There is almost no value with that pick, so you just take a dude to run your SL team and hope that you can put him on your D-League squad.

They traded 42 for 55 and "cash" the basketball equivalent of "a player to be named" AKA Nothing. They took Bolomboy at 52 which is fine. But Paige at 55 and Wallace at 60 were wasted picks. They have no chance to ever make the Utah Jazz. We have 6 point guards already. If they make the Salt Lake City Stars any team can sign them. And I'm so tired of hearing second round picks have no value. Every pick has value.

 

[framer]

Also, in the NBA, the term All-Star has very little meaning. in the West you get about 15 players and half of them are generally penciled in before they lace up for their first game, with another half of those being voted in my idiot fans no matter how they play. Hill could be the best pg statistically in the League and he will not make the all star game this season. Westbrook, Paul, Harden, Curry, and Thompson are going no matter what happens, probably for the next three years. That leaves 1 guard slot.

Had Teague played in the West, he never would have been an all star. Of course his team would never have won 60 games either.

Is Hill a bonefied all star? No. Are you going to trade for an all star at #12? No. Are you drafting an all star in this draft at #12?, 95% No.

Can Hill advance this team to the next level? There is little question about this. It is almost universally accepted that Hill makes the Jazz a playoff team. If you have to choose playoffs or the continual tail end of the draft, you go playoffs.

 

[framer]

They traded 42 for 55 and "cash" the basketball equivalent of "a player to be named" AKA Nothing. They took Bolomboy at 52 which is fine. But Paige at 55 and Wallace at 60 were wasted picks. They have no chance to ever make the Utah Jazz. We have 6 point guards already. If they make the Salt Lake City Stars any team can sign them. And I'm so tired of hearing second round picks have no value. Every pick has value.

"Cash" is paying for all those workouts and scouting that helps us land Gobert. Are you positive that Paige and Wallace aren't going to play in Europe after summer league? If they do, what is the difference between taking one of these guys and a random Euro other than these guys have done something at the college level? Jazz might have asked them their intentions, no? Jazz also might help them land with a Euro Club keeping their rights and doing these players a solid.

 

[Maneesh]

Lord... It's a second round pick??

I wish it one day you can make name Thee Nugget fan and he way from Jazz thought!!

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

I wish it one day you can make name Thee Nugget fan and he way from Jazz thought!!

Can someone tell me what in gods name TPP trying to say?


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[ncoloradojazz]

May be we're using the extra money or cap space in free agency.... let's evaluate this once the season starts shall we?

Utah is never a major player in free agency.. Whats best free agent they have gotten lately? boozer, lol?

 

[ncoloradojazz]

I wouldn't call a 12 and 6 guy for a lottery pick a fantastic deal. 30 year old on downward part of career to boot.. To each his own but I wouldn't call it a fantastic deal. Indiana got the best of thattrade

DL got a fantastic deal for our lottery pick. Hill directly addresses several huge needs. The lists have been made.

It does not matter what possible stars there are in up to 4 years from this draft. It matters what Hill does for Utah this season and if he re-signs. It was not a needless burn of assets. It was a very good use of them.

I like you, you're a good dude but man you and I almost always disagree on the Jazz. Personally I don't want you to quit the board. I feel that declarations like that are overly dramatic.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

Can someone tell me what in gods name TPP trying to say?


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I'm pretty sure he's hoping you'll become a Nuggets fan. It frightens me that some of his posts are becoming decodable to me. That probably means I'm losing my mind.