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Hayward or Paul George

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Yeah, I'm going to just go ahead and disagree. When comparing them to other playoff teams and contenders their offense and spacing was pretty weak. They started Stephenson, George, and Hibbert. The former two were also the best options as playmakers on the team. They had far less playmaking, shooting, and spacing than other teams. I'm gonna guess teams were more than fine sagging off Stephenson and George in those days instead of letting them use their superior size and athleticism inside the paint. George has also improved as a shooter since those years with Lance and co.

Were they a spread you out kind of offense? Did they play outside-in? No way.
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https://www.espn.com/nba/statistics...threePointFieldGoalPct/year/2014/seasontype/3
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
https://vorped.com/1-nba/2014-2015/player/1143/roy-hibbert/shotchart/

https://vorped.com/1-nba/2014-2015/player/968/david-west/shotchart/

So their spacing sucked, right? Lmao, excuses. Paul George just sucked as a creator.
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Yeah, Paul George and Stephenson were their best creators. That's already been stated by me. Doesn't that make their spacing suck? If you don't have great shooters or playmakers your spacing will suck. Probabaly why they only averaged 91 some pts a game that year. 91 pts a game, with that awesome offensive supporting cast for PG. Hayward probabaly would have been much better in that offense...
 
Indiana's starting line-up had great spacing, to argue otherwise is ridiculous. They had 3 good 3pt shooters who could all create and two bigs who could all step out of the paint and knock down midrange shots. David West was an elite midrange shooter. Dont give me this garbage about spacing. Vogel sucked as an offensive coach and PG has never been a great creator IMO.
 
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Yeah, Paul George and Stephenson were their best creators. That's already been stated by me. Doesn't that make their spacing suck? If you don't have great shooters or playmakers your spacing will suck. Probabaly why they only averaged 91 some pts a game that year. 91 pts a game, with that awesome offensive supporting cast for PG. Hayward probabaly would have been much better in that offense...
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lmao. Their spacing didn't suck, or at least it sucking had 0 to do with their ability to shoot because they had a good or great shooter at every position in the starting lineup.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Indiana's starting line-up had great spacing, to argue otherwise is ridiculous. They had 3 good 3pt shooters who could all create and two bigs who could all step out of the paint and knock down midrange shots. David West was an elite midrange shooter. Dont give me this garbage about spacing. Vogel sucked as an offensive coach and PG has never been a great creator IMO.
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Playmaking ability helps space a floor dude. The defense has to account for more then. Anyway, Indiana was def lucky to have Lance Stephenson bombing away from three
 
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Playmaking ability helps space a floor dude. The defense has to account for more then. Anyway, Indiana was def lucky to have Lance Stephenson bombing away from three
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I forgot you are LazyD and you like to troll like this smh.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
lmao. Their spacing didn't suck, or at least it sucking had 0 to do with their ability to shoot because they had a good or great shooter at every position in the starting lineup.
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Lance Stephenson definitely is not a good to great shooter. Paul George maybe bordered good at that point, but I wouldn't have considered him that. Stick to your 3pt % and then explain something like Kendall Marshall being a better shooter than Dirk one season or smth similar.

Hayward would not have saved their below average offense, and would have made their defense worse, which was the only reason why they were contenders in the first place.
 
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Lance Stephenson definitely is not a good to great shooter. Paul George maybe bordered good at that point, but I wouldn't have considered him that. Stick to your 3pt % and then explain something like Kendall Marshall being a better shooter than Dirk one season or smth similar.

Hayward would not have saved their below average offense, and would have made their defense worse, which was the only reason why they were contenders in the first place.
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Stephenson was good shooter that entire year. If it was a fluke, it was a fluke that lasted for nearly 100 games. And PG shot 36% that regular season and 41% during the playoffs.

Hayward would have made the team way better. He would have unlocked George Hill like he is doing right now and probably would have made Stephenson sane and an even better player. Hibbert would have probably never lost his confidence with Hayward there to console him.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Stephenson was good shooter that entire year. If it was a fluke, it was a fluke that lasted for nearly 100 games. And PG shot 36% that regular season and 41% during the playoffs.

Hayward would have made the team way better. He would have unlocked George Hill like he is doing right now and probably would have made Stephenson sane and an even better player. Hibbert would have probably never lost his confidence with Hayward there to console him.
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Wow, Hayward sounds so awesome in this magical past of yours. Jazz must have had some amazing seasons with him on the team.
 
Lance Stephenson was not a good shooter. He had an open three anytime he wanted cuz defenses were gameplanned to sag off of him. I remember George getting really hot during the playoffs tho and consistently hitting tough shots. He rode some good fortune. Maybe you weren't born yet?
 
8 said:
Lance Stephenson was not a good shooter. He had an open three anytime he wanted cuz defenses were gameplanned to sag off of him. I remember George getting really hot during the playoffs tho and consistently hitting tough shots. He rode some good fortune. Maybe you weren't born yet?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQ5yGbZuHkk
 
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