Apparently you think Trump is a liar then, because he said he had made up his mind prior to the "recommendation" ("justification" is more accurate) from the DOJ.
Donald Fires FBI Director who's investigating Russian Election Hacking
Apparently you think Trump is a liar then, because he said he had made up his mind prior to the "recommendation" ("justification" is more accurate) from the DOJ.
what crime do you think they are looking at? Having tea with the British NATO representative?
Look, I don't know Flynn, or even Trump. If charges are filed, there needs to be a trial. In a court, not on CNN.
I've sat through a trial in a court as a juror. I was outvoted, and the judge didn't want to listen to my account of how another juror in the jury room bragged about having a relative working for the defendant, who was found innocent by 11 of the defendant's "peers".
I'll have my opinions. What might change them is information I believe. If such a thing could exist.
A lot of people might think Trump is a liar, on occasion and on purpose, when things need a little massaging to get stuff done. Me included.
Anybody who really didn't want Comey fired, for one reason or another, has not been following the news. Hillary would have fired him on Day One.
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The President, be it Trump or anyone else, should not have the power to fire the head of our national police force. That power should belong to Congress. The President should only have the power to request that Congress review an appointment and then vote to either reaffirm or remove that person.
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Flynn is being investigated for lying to the FBI, both with regards to not disclosing his repeated contacts with Kremlin officials as well as failing to register as a foreign agent, possibly in violation of FARA. I agree about the need for a fair trial should charges be filed. I also support public hearings into these important national security issues as they are in the public's interest to know.
*edited, got hatch and FARA mixed up.*
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There is no Constitutional provision for national police or intelligence agencies. Probably could be a good idea, but the Founders wanted the States to have all the marbles so far as possible. They were having a hard time convincing the states to sign up.... they made all kinds of promises.
The general principle of separation of powers does solidly support your notion, alt. Nobody should be above the law... well, there is an issue about Congressional ethics and all the money being bandied about by Lobbyists, revolving-door regulators/regulated Corporate bigshots, and such.
The issue the Founders were grappling with was just this: How to create a government that would not become corrupt and abusive like the British colonial governments run by British carpetbaggers....schills for the British Corporates of the time.
Comey has a long career with both parties of playing the political games, working the ropes so to speak. He is absolutely unfit for public office, I don't care who fired him, it had to be done.
I think Trump was afraid to fire him, looking for some kind of cover, unsure he could pull it off without it being used as it has been against him. Trump knew Comey was a playa, and it shows tremendous courage on Trump's part that he did it.
J. Edgar Hoover had the dirt on all the politicians in his time, too. I remember watching TV drama stuff that made him out like Jesus the Crucified, the one who saves us all from all crooks.
I don't know how you can ever have national police organizations that cannot be weaponized politically.....
Our only real hope is to vote the bums out more regularly, making it an issue when candidates have corporate and/or banker backers. And never voting for anyone with big ideas about how to run the world.....
But yes, make the FBI chief term-limited to two years and nominated by congress, approved by the Senate, signed off on by the President..... and answerable to a oversight committee comprised of nominees proposed by a national Sheriff's organization which must be approved by a national board of boy scout civic badge holders, twelve selected by lottery.....
Like I said, I don't know how you could EVER have a non-politicized national police force.....
DutchJazzer
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for obstruction of justice their needs to be a crime!
trump has every right to fire comey!
he is the boss!!!!
seriously how can he obstruct justice if by law he has the right!
he wa snot being investigated! even if others are investigated he could pardon them.
he has every right to fire everyone who works for him.
laws/constitution needs to change if you do not like that
DutchJazzer
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ye sbut for now trump did nothing wrong when it came to firing comey.
laws/regulations and constitution needs to change for that
I think you are accurate on those charges. So what was the impact of those falsifications, in real terms? Did we give the Russians control of 20% of our Uranium resources? What did he tell the Russians he met, and what did they promise him? What was the deal?
All that would necessarily be discovered in making appropriate charges and arriving at a verdict and a punishment. Lying is bad. Lying to law enforcement is a law written into the police codebooks of offenses. It's always the first thing the cop writes down. I've questioned how laws against lying to the police or law enforcement can stand up to the right to not incriminate yourself. So was there some rationale behind say, a Flynn "lie", like oh a conversation about the Jazz basketball team is not the kind of thing you're required to disclose. If it was a discussion with formulas and equations about our composite aircraft materials essential to evade radar detection, I'd say nail Flynn's hide to the walls of Leavenworth.
oh, wait.... didn't Bill Clinton share a lot of space and computer technology with the Chinese, to help them assume their rightful place in the world as a co-equal in the family of nations? And to help them aim their nukes at us?
Let me make it clear. It just doesn't strike me as "American" to have a partisan media that will bury serious issues about some preferred politicians while grabbing every possible chance to attack another.
Oh, wait. I remember reading in History about the Tammany Hall scandals..... we've been doing this partisan media thing for a helluvalongtime.
DutchJazzer
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can some lawyer on me tell me what law trump broke?
what evidince is their
"MUH russia" theory is CRAZY!
what evidince is their
"MUH russia" theory is CRAZY!
You are correct but live in the reality environment you are dealt. Trump had the right just like state governors have this same right an they ALL force agendas down are throats with the power of there BAN HAMMER!
Change the rules if you got a problem with this. Go ahead if you want a divided isle congress deciding who should be in charge of the Judicial Branch. Good luck with that so called balancing of power.