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The Jazz have acquired the 13th pick and select Donovan Mitchell

Pre injury alec burks was pretty damn athletic. He just didn't have the wherewithal to capitalize on it like many think Donovan will be able to.
Burks sure was. It looks like maybe Mitchell is stronger so maybe he can land on his feet more often as he plays through contact.

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Most of us either wanted Turner, or like myself, were upset when we passed on Devin Booker. Trey Lyles has shown flashes, but has been much maligned around here since his draft date.
 
I hope he has a strong summer league unlike Burke did his rookie year.

I want the hype train to be ridiculous through the summer.
 
I believe there to be a big question mark over Lyles' defense moving forward - but next to Gobert I was prepared to give it a real go.

I can honestly see the guy being an elite offensive player. He has all the tools.

Gobert is amazing and he singlehandedly makes you a top 5 defense in the league. He cannot cover for lapses, missed rotations, blown coverages every second possession. Gobert is best when he's paired with at least competent defenders. Sure he can cover for you, but you better be getting something out of that(for example, if you gamble a bit more on the perimeter and this results in more steals and fast break points, Gobert covering for you might have good additional benefit, when you close out hard and chase players off the 3p line and Gobert covers for you, this gives auxiliary benefit to your defense, but if you are getting exposed by your guy without giving anything to the defense, no matter how good Gobert is, at the end the negatives pile up.
 
What cracks me up about this pick/trade is that a big bulk of this board was on Lyles jock like no other for the couple years he was here.
Other than the fact that's not true in any way whatsoever, sure, you make a great point.
 
After last year over half the board was ready to trade Favors and start Lyles.

Maybe for a month or two. When Lyles was drafted he was one of the most hated picks I can remember. And all of last year that half the board got off board with him, because, well, who didn't. He royally sucked last year.
 
Maybe for a month or two. When Lyles was drafted he was one of the most hated picks I can remember. And all of last year that half the board got off board with him, because, well, who didn't. He royally sucked last year.

in addition Lyles got off on such a bad foot with the fans. He held out on his rookie contract for some dumb reason, and missed part of the summer league. There was already skepticism surrounding him because Booker and others were still on the board. Holding out solidified the skeptics negative opinions and turned many of the fence sitters against him. Lyles put himself in a bad spot before he even put on the Jazz Uniform.
 
Mitchell has more offensive potential than he gets credit for. He's going to look good in NBA spacing. He has a pretty good handle and uses his length and explosiveness to sidestep defenders. His cross-over covers the full 7 feet of his wingspan. He can get defenders on their heels and get to the rim in a flash. He's crafty and shifty like CJ McCollum (though he doesn't have that elite shooting touch). He has much better offensive instincts than Marcus Smart, is a much better and more willing passer than Oladipo, and is more explosive than Avery Bradley. He's a very valuable player. He just needs to keep refining his shot and work on finishing in different ways at the rim.

For those of you who liked Patrick Beverly, Mitchell is a big upgrade from that. Shelvin Mack is a rec player compared to Mitchell.
 
in addition Lyles got off on such a bad foot with the fans. He held out on his rookie contract for some dumb reason, and missed part of the summer league. There was already skepticism surrounding him because Booker and others were still on the board. Holding out solidified the skeptics negative opinions and turned many of the fence sitters against him. Lyles put himself in a bad spot before he even put on the Jazz Uniform.

Uhh, everyone loved Lyles last off-season. He might have gotten off to a bad start, but by the end of his rookie year and then the 2nd SL people loved him. He just sucked *** this year.
 
Mitchell has more offensive potential than he gets credit for. He's going to look good in NBA spacing. He has a pretty good handle and uses his length and explosiveness to sidestep defenders. His cross-over covers the full 7 feet of his wingspan. He can get defenders on their heels and get to the rim in a flash. He's crafty and shifty like CJ McCollum (though he doesn't have that elite shooting touch). He has much better offensive instincts than Marcus Smart, is a much better and more willing passer than Oladipo, and is more explosive than Avery Bradley. He's a very valuable player. He just needs to keep refining his shot and work on finishing in different ways at the rim.

For those of you who liked Patrick Beverly, Mitchell is a big upgrade from that. Shelvin Mack is a rec player compared to Mitchell.

His wingspan is 6'10. not 7'.

He has potential as an offensive player, but it's not like it's a guarantee. He has to learn to draw contact and play off one foot. Those aren't always things guys can learn. IDK if he is a better passer than Oladipo, but I think he is a better shooter.
 
Uhh, everyone loved Lyles last off-season. He might have gotten off to a bad start, but by the end of his rookie year and then the 2nd SL people loved him. He just sucked *** this year.

Not everyone. I've always been down on Lyles. Think he looks like a player that lost both his medical marijuana card and his shot at the same time.
 
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