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Bulletproof said:
@babe , I know it is upsetting when mommy and daddy fight, but remember, they both still love you very very much.
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Trump, Bannon, nor their friends know who I am. I'm the guy behind the headlights people pass in the night. There are millions of people like me..... sick of the mainstream media, sick of the public schools, sick of "progressives" hailing the new dawn of feudalism, statism, fascism, and state-mandated norms of manners, morals, thoughts and words.

Anyone who can articulate the mood of the masses will have a huge wave to ride, if he can.

Bannon will capitalize on whatever there is in the news, but he will turn it into the reason you can't believe the news.
 
babe said:
It's just annoying to have the libs start up now about decadence.
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Just as annoying as the conservatives doing the exact same thing when the dems were in power. The only difference to the populace in general is their upbringing and world view. I tend to get way more annoyed by liberal whining than I do the anarchist right wingers. I can at least respect someone who I disagree with but who has the self respect of self reliance. So their obnoxious asses don't annoy me to the same degree that they would a more left-leaning moderate.

babe said:
Fun stuff about Rome in some history books. And hey, thought you were an end-stage advocate of spending our way outta trouble. Keynesian with no limits, no sense of propriety.
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You clearly don't understand Keynesian economic theory (or whatever the modern version is termed), or my stance on counter cyclical policy. I would think that you, of all people, would support paying down our massive government debt in a time of full employment, record corporate profits, and possible re-inflation of the last property bubble. Now is the time to save, not spend like mad men. That's what Keynes taught, not whatever rantings you've listened to and now use as some expletive like people do with "commie" and "nazi".

babe said:
Problem is, private spending is better spending, and we will prosper more the less the govt. ever does or spends. Simple opinion.
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FIFY. You are welcome to your opinion. You do not understand simple economics and how big a role the US government deficit spending has played in your very own prosperity. People of your opinion want to cut off their nose to spite their face. Is it wasteful spending a lot of the time? That's measurable. What is the add on effect? What is the increase in velocity of money? How much does Babe and other farmers and ranchers benefit from food stamps and all the various agricultural welfare programs? How much does the public benefit from USDA regulations that cost money in the form of jobs? What is the add-on effect of to the economy of a USDA beef inspector's salary, or that of the lab workers, or that of the very expensive sample testing equipment?

"people know what they need or want. govt knows nothing. cares less." No, babe, your ideology blinds you from rational use of government for the benefit of the people. If you want what you and I have preached about for several years - clean water projects, infrastructure, etc. - then making these ill-minded claims do nothing but block your own cause.
 
BabyPeterzz said:
Are you guys reading this?!?!???!?

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/01/michael-wolff-fire-and-fury-book-donald-trump.html
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Lol
Pretty much what I always thought. He never really cared about being president... just wanted to use the election to get more fame and money. Unfortunately and shockingly there were actually lots of idiots that voted for the moron.

South Park pretty much nailed it. The character that they had representing trump during the election was saying and doing everything possible to try to lose the election and make people not vote for him yet his political party had enough blind idiot sheep that would vote for him no matter what he said or did. It was pretty hilarious. And accurate.
 
Today’s events tell me 3 things:

#1 trump is in serious **** and Bannon knows it. Rats are jumping ship. Who’s next? Miller?

#2 trump hasn’t denied bannon’s words. Claiming that he “lost his job and mind” and then issuing a worthless cease and desist letter is just so weak.

#3 republican leadership is completely silent. Look at them. Ryan, McConnell, etc. It leads me to believe that they know that the gop has benefitted from Russian oligarch money. Why else would they keep this rodeo clown in the White House? Why else would they attack Mueller nonstop?

They’d benefit so much by ridding themselves of this cancer and rolling with Pence. But perhaps they’re afraid that by turning on trump, he’d reveal that he’s not the only one who’s been compromised by inappropriate Russian dealings.

Why else would they keep this piece of crap in the White House?

He’s constantly creating drama. He’s a one man drama show. He single handedly is generating enough animosity against republicans that democrats are going to retake at least the House this fall. If he continues at this rate, he’ll hand them the senate too.
 
An excerpt from Wolfe’s book. Trump is such trash.

Where’s the Christian “family values” voter?
 
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BabyPeterzz said:
Lol. Go read the Breitbart comment section. These people don't know what they believe anymore.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...annon-not-only-lost-his-job-he-lost-his-mind/

I think this is what death throes sound like.
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One of the first places I went to.

I love seeing idiotic male gamers calling Donald “a deep state swamp creature” and referring to Bannon as “Benedict Arnold.”

Breitbart, the bastion of republican intellectual thought! Derp derp
 
Oh btw, this is like still totally a nothing Burger, right? I mean so what if Bannon calls what the trump campaign did in meeting with the Russians at trump tower treason, right? It’s still a nothing Burger to explain away Benghazi, emails, Seth rich, deep state, and the moon landing.

#MAGA
#MYNUKEBUTTONISTHEBIGGESTOFALL
 
colton said:
Still here.
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Either we need to redefine that term or we need to come to grips that you’re the outlier.

Trump still has bigtime support among white Christian evangelicals. They’re his base. “Grab em by the *****” and his base loved it. I’m sure this tidbit from the book will be excused away. You know, “locker room talk.”
 
The Thriller said:
Oh btw, this is like still totally a nothing Burger, right? I mean so what if Bannon calls what the trump campaign did in meeting with the Russians at trump tower treason, right? It’s still a nothing Burger to explain away Benghazi, emails, Seth rich, deep state, and the moon landing.

#MAGA
#MYNUKEBUTTONISTHEBIGGESTOFALL
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tweeting about a nuke button is better than the nuclear deal clinton did with korea and the nuclear deal Barry "muh Legacy" obummer did with iran

speaking of iran. it is deafening the media silence on iran.


ok i know the silence is not deafening they are not talking about it. but i seem to remember when the same thing happened in egypt it wa son cnn 80% of the time. now they talk about petty stuff like how much scoops trump has, how much dieet coke he drinks or how much tv he watches. or the epic story about how mysterious white a truck was blocking his golfpark

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA get a grip! 7 more years. 7 years and about 3 weeks of trump
 
The Thriller said:
An excerpt from Wolfe’s book. Trump is such trash.

Where’s the Christian “family values” voter?
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the book is a work of fiction like the author said so
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also the book claims trump did not want to be president, but then he colluded to become president. that seems conflicting right

HAHAHHAHAHAH


@Thriller #NOTHINGBURGER

#Mynothingburgerisbiggerthanyours
 
I wish we had elected Romney when we had a chance. It is so obvious that large blocks of voters on both sides are fed up with politics. The voters and voices in the middle hardly matter these days. It won't surprise me one bit when the pendulum swings to the other extreme. What do we have to do to get to the middle ground?
 
Trump's lawyers just sent a cease and desist letter to the publisher of Bannon's book. lmfao
 
I did not know anything about Michael Wolff prior to excerpts (in the case of the New York Magazine, an entire chapter) of his book "Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump Whitehouse" exploded all over the airways yesterday. Wed. night the pundits on MSNBC were absolutely giddy about the news.

But it's always good to step back and not be giddy when news serves one's own confirmation bias. And there is a whole lot to recommend in the article @franklin posted suggesting folks tune out the news altogether. I gotta say, as dismayed as I am by Trump, I'm every bit the news junkie he is. I just never imagined I'd be spending this phase of my life so singularly focused.

But, I hope I have not flushed objectivity down the drain completel. Here are two Washington Post articles pointing out why we need to keep things in perspective where Michael Wolff is concerned:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...career-of-controversy/?utm_term=.6672825a5a72

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-trump-administration/?utm_term=.54d89a645cdd

And for those who have @DutchJazzer on ignore, I think he pointed something out that is worth repeating, in so many words:

On the one hand, the claim has been out there forever, and is a focus of the Mueller investigation: the Trump campaign colluded with Russia's efforts to help Trump win. We know, at least I don't doubt, that Putin did want to help Trump, and he did so via social media, email dumps, etc. Since those Russian "active measures" alone represented an attack on our national sovereignty, by interfering with the democratic institution of free elections, understanding that and preventing a repeat has always been primary to me petsonally. I think feeling that way is my responsibility as a citizen of this country. But the degree to which the Trump campaign did, or did not, collude with Putin is still unknown. Maybe Mueller will provide an answer. Maybe he will not.

But on the other hand, Wolff's book claims Trump never wanted to win the 2016 election at all. And there's likely good reasons to suspect that might have been the case.

I can't reconcile those two claims. One possibility is Trump did not expect to win, but did try to win, that Wolff is mistaken, Trump did want to win. Another is that there was never any real collusion. But things like Donald Jr's meeting suggest otherwise.

Trump wants the book yanked, not published at all. That's an extraordinary move for a President. The publisher's response is to move the date up. The book is being released today.
 
Donald Trump helped usher in the Post Truth era. All the baldface lies. Did Trump care if millions of Americans would believe 3 million illegal aliens in California cost him the popular vote? Does Trump care for Truth? Some of the information in Wolff's book might reside in that world of alternative fact. Not much though, I'll bet.

But this is the Post Truth era in large part because Trump helped usher it in and nurture it, something that is an existential threat to a basic need of a democracy: that the people get to make decisions about their leaders by understanding the facts of the matter, being able to agree on a consensus reality.

And here we are in that world. Wolff defending his book to the hilt. Trump trying to yank it from the shelves before it hits the shelfs.

Trump is no guardian of truth. Let him live in the Post Truth world he has been hiding in as a refuge all along....
 
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