Ricky has very rarely had high scoring games in his career. Mirotic, when he's gotten consistent minutes, has had a ton.
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Ricky has very rarely had high scoring games in his career. Mirotic, when he's gotten consistent minutes, has had a ton.
latin jazz
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I don't think amount of points is that important, but shooting percentage above career averages. I believe Mirotic is a better player this season but I don't expect him to be this good in the long term. I mean, 46% on 3s on more than 6 attempts? That will drop a bit to 38, 39%. Still, an improvement nonetheless
LoPo
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The Bulls don't want Ricky. They are trying to dump Jerian Grant. Burks could make sense because a team really can't have too many wings and his contract expires before Chicago plans to do business in 2019.
http://www.basketballinsiders.com/sources-bulls-gauging-interest-in-jerian-grant/
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http://www.basketballinsiders.com/sources-bulls-gauging-interest-in-jerian-grant/
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38-39% while hoisting 9 threes per 36 minutes is a gigantic feat. Take a look at the list of people who can do that.
Rubio and Burks plus a protected 1st for Mirotic plus whatever salary to make it work. Or just Rubio if we can't make the salary work.
They get their first, we clear some salary that won't hurt them. They need some salaries for the next couple years of tanking.
Then we can use favors and JJ for something else. Or even Hood if it's a good trade. I think there are some great options to go after with these guys.
They get their first, we clear some salary that won't hurt them. They need some salaries for the next couple years of tanking.
Then we can use favors and JJ for something else. Or even Hood if it's a good trade. I think there are some great options to go after with these guys.
latin jazz
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That's Sacramento!
. Don't get confused my friend haha. Chicago actually have some nice pieces
LoPo
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If we could trade Rubio and Burks with our 1st for Mirotic, I would jump on that in a heartbeat.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yadmbcv4
It does help Chicago reach the salary floor....
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http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yadmbcv4
It does help Chicago reach the salary floor....
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Yeah, I think Mitchell has been the best rookie this season.That's Sacramento!
But if there was a redraft today I'm not sure he goes first. I think it goes Tatum, Markkanen then Mitchell. Having a 7' sharp shooter who can drive is special to build around. Markkanen might be a better prospect than Porz.
LoPo
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Chicago only has $83 million in contracts right now. They have to get to $89.1 or they pay a fine similar to the luxury tax. So the Burks and Rubio for Mirotic does have a little more enticement to it. If Chicago sees their expirings for 2019 as assets, maybe Chicago does that trade.
Mirotic
for
Rubio, Burks, our unprotected 2018 1st
Bulls reach salary floor, get a likely lottery pick, lose more to improve their 2018 pick, and have tons of 2019 expirings.
We get Mirotic and comfortably re-sign Hood and Exum. And we could make moves with Favors and JoeJ
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Mirotic
for
Rubio, Burks, our unprotected 2018 1st
Bulls reach salary floor, get a likely lottery pick, lose more to improve their 2018 pick, and have tons of 2019 expirings.
We get Mirotic and comfortably re-sign Hood and Exum. And we could make moves with Favors and JoeJ
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That would be very dumb to give our pick unprotected. I would lottery protect it this year. That's a fair trade. At the very very least top 3 protect it.
latin jazz
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Would he crack 36min? Nope. Since Snyder arrived only one player has cracked that mark. Hayward in 2015 with 36.2mpg
Using 36 per min is a bit tricky. Numbers just don't multiply from whatever production you are getting now.
Yet, if we acquire him, I can see Mirotic playing a bit more, between 26 to 30 minutes per game and hoisting about about 6 to 7 threes per game. There are currently 20 players shooting at least 38% on at least 6 attempts. That's very good and would be a big boost in our offense.
I'm just sayin'. I don't think he is this good. Maybe a 28-30mpg, 15-16ppg on 39% on 3s. More like a rich man Ryan Anderson
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latin jazz
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I am not trading our 1st this year, likely top 10. That's overpaying for getting rid of two contracts that will become '1 year expirings' during the offseason and therefore, easier to move.
I'm using per 36 because it's a standard metric for saying per minute what someone is doing. I'm not implying he'll play 36 minutes, but it's not really fair to compare total attempts in one guy playing 25 minutes to another guy playing 34 minutes -- they're both playing enough minutes that a per-minute stat levels the playing field. This isn't like comparing a guy playing 12 mpg of garbage time and generalizing that to 36 mpg. Mirotic is being sat to help a tank and to give Markkanen more minutes, not because he's incapable of playing 28-32 and not because all of the sudden his production would take a steep decline after 25 minutes. While 25 players are shooting 38% on at least 6 attempts, how many of them are playing 25 minutes or less?
latin jazz
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Markkanen is legit
They have potential but Donovan is already a superstar.
There's a total of 26 guys who have put up more attempts (per game, not per minute) than Mirotic. 14 have a percentage 38% or higher. 100% of them play more minutes than Niko. 0 of them are big men.
latin jazz
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3 players.
Point taken.
My point is that it's not automatic he would reach 9 3 point attempts per game. I'm not saying he is incapable of playing 32mpg or that his production will decline. The amount of minutes he gets (and his shoot attempts) depends on rotations, who we draft, the roster, conditioning, etc. Also, our recent history suggests that even our best players barely crack 34mpg (medical reasons+a deep roster).
For players who have played at least 300 minutes, there are 8 total guys in the league with more attempts per minute than him. None of them are shooting a higher percentage than him. 3/6 shoot 38% or better (Troy Daniels 41.4%, Wayne Ellington 40.7%, James Harden 39% and Steph Curry 41.8%)
ETA: that's 4/8 not 3/6.
ETA: that's 4/8 not 3/6.
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They are also the Bulls and their cap-space is more valuable than most teams. Why would their GM's want to take on contracts when they always have a strong shot at big free agents?