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Woj on Cavs/Utah deadline deals

Wow, you never get this amount of detail on trade talks. Woj is the best.

Funny how Sac is a dump, almost ruined the day for everyone.

Worth noting is how important personal relationship are for making deals happen (e.g. Zanik with Altman). Makes me wonder what are the GM's first reaction when someone like Ainge, Morey or Hinkie (in the past) calls. DL seems like a great guy who would build strong relationships with other GMs
 
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The 2024 2nd round swap makes more sense now. I wonder what DL sees on the horizon? That almost sounded like a deal with the Devil almost....
 
TheStormofWar said:
The 2024 2nd round swap makes more sense now. I wonder what DL sees on the horizon? That almost sounded like a deal with the Devil almost....
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In 2024? There's absolutely nothing that anyone, no matter how polished, is going to see that, six years out, they think they can land player X by possibly jumping some slots in the second round. We don't even know who will be taken in the second round this year. It's more like getting a rebate on your refrigerator that's redeemable for $30 in five years. You have no idea what you're going to spend that on, but you may as well claim it and maybe it will buy you a nice meal that night.
 
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In 2024? There's absolutely nothing that anyone, no matter how polished, is going to see that, six years out, they think they can land player X by possibly jumping some slots in the second round. We don't even know who will be taken in the second round this year. It's more like getting a rebate on your refrigerator that's redeemable for $30 in five years. You have no idea what you're going to spend that on, but you may as well claim it and maybe it will buy you a nice meal that night.
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TheStormofWar said:
The 2024 2nd round swap makes more sense now. I wonder what DL sees on the horizon? That almost sounded like a deal with the Devil almost....
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Well, it's likely LBJ will be retired at that point and the Cavs, as mediocre as they have been without him, will suck balls. So I guess he is banking on jumping from say 50th to 35th or so. Not a big deal but just a little perk for our trouble (1M).

Also worth noting that the Jazz ended up recouping that money, as they saved about 3M in salaries with the trade
 
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A great read. LoL at the Kings not wanting to waive its own player due to not wanting to be embarrased.
 
latin jazz said:
Worth noting is how important personal relationship are for making deals happen (e.g. Zanik with Altman). Makes me wonder what are the GM's first reaction when someone like Ainge, Morey or Hinkie (in the past) calls. DL seems like a great guy who would build strong relationships with other GMs
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Pretty true, actually. I'd actually like to see a study on if the fact if the GM's are cool with each relate directly to how well a deal work for each team. Right now, the Hood/Crowder swap seems to be working well for both teams.
 
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I find it interesting that the Kings were so hell-bent on getting that money back when they just bought out JJ.


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I think he gave back more money than expected too... Hey Kings if you want to be cheap asses then maybe don't sign Hill and Randolph to huge overpriced deals.
 
latin jazz said:
Well, it's likely LBJ will be retired at that point and the Cavs, as mediocre as they have been without him, will suck balls. So I guess he is banking on jumping from say 50th to 35th or so. Not a big deal but just a little perk for our trouble (1M).

Also worth noting that the Jazz ended up recouping that money, as they saved about 3M in salaries with the trade
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This... it's also a negotiation tactic to make sure that people don't feel they can walk over you. I have clients that sometimes pushback/negotiate on fees... I will usually concede if fair, but get some terms I want.
 
Sacramento's scouting and talent evaluation department must spend all day watching YouTube highlights and asking commenters if they think they'll be a good basketball player.
 
Avery said:
Sacramento's scouting and talent evaluation department must spend all day watching YouTube highlights and asking commenters if they think they'll be a good basketball player.
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I think that would be more effective than their strategy of drafting guys that might be worth a second round flier in the lottery.

In their defense in a vacuum that draft trade they made was solid. Getting the 13th pick and Bojan was good... just pooped the bed on the pick.

They also got a 1st for Marco belineli, so look blind squirrels do find nuts sometimes, but sometimes those squirrels roll those nuts in dog doodoo before eating.
 
My favourite part.

Utah was willing to do the deal for Crowder and a minimum expiring contract. Cleveland could choose -- Derrick Rose or Wade. The Jazz planned to waive either player. Altman told the Jazz he'd let them know which player he'd be sending them on Thursday morning.
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A former MVP and an 8-time All-NBA player and the Jazz all like "We're just going to waive your trash one way or another." I love this organization. There are teams in the NBA that'd be so tempted by former, very faded glory to keep these dudes.
 
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