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So this is why Spence hasn't been on the radio...

cowhide said:
It makes him an idiot for getting in a car while he is drunk. He is lucky he hasn't killed anyone yet. Dude needs help for his drinking issues but he needs some jail time for his history of DUIs.
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Every state has a time period for DUI's in regards to jail time.

Looking into it, he has two prior DUIs, both in 2004. In 2008 he was arrested for attempting to drive while intoxicated (the thing Wes talked about being pled down). His other arrest was for failing to appear in court due to one of those offenses. So he only has two DUI's, both in 2004, if I have the information correct. He is probably past the time in which the priors would influence his punishment for this offense.
 
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Jack Strop said:
I could care less if he's an alcoholic or not. If he chooses to drink, fine. But once he grabs his keys and gets on the road, he's committing a horrible crime. He IS a POS for driving while intoxicated. And he's a POS for driving 120 mph. He put a lot of innocent people at risk. The fact that he's not killed anyone in his fourth (or fifth) attempt at doing so just makes him extremely lucky.

Has he not heard of taxi's or UBER? I just can't believe he doesn't have an ignition lock. What the hell is wrong with the Utah legal system? Perhaps the fact he is Utah "royalty" means they've been more lenient than normal. Daddy and Mommy have likely been enablers. He won't get jail time; he'll enroll in some kind of treatment facility and have his license restored upon completion. Daddy will use his influence to see to that.
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You know the thing with alcohol is that it impairs your decision making. Not saying people shouldn't be held accountable for their actions, they should, but I dont think it makes the person scum. It just means they are incredibly weak with how they are able to handle alcohol. The dude went 14 years but it seems like it was still in him. Hopefully he takes the steps necessary to make sure it doesnt happen again.
 
gregbroncs said:
Forcing someone to be sober from alcohol does nothing to help them get better. They have to decide to stop drinking and work on it the rest of their lives. Prison doesn't work for alcoholics. That said he should be in prison because of his stupidity in drinking and driving.
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Part of beating addiction is getting past physical withdrawals. Prison would help with that part. I bet they also have counseling and programs in prison to help with the mental aspect as well.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
If you are going to judge a guy you should at least attempt to get the facts straight.
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He got the DUI. He got the ticket for such. It was simply pled down and so at the end of the day, it was as if he didn’t get one.

So it’s semantics. He was still driving under the influence. But let’s ignore the most important fact in all this and argue just to argue because that’s what you do best.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
You know the thing with alcohol is that it impairs your decision making. Not saying people shouldn't be held accountable for their actions, they should, but I dont think it makes the person scum. It just means they are incredibly weak with how they are able to handle alcohol. The dude went 14 years but it seems like it was still in him. Hopefully he takes the steps necessary to make sure it doesnt happen again.
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14 years? Just 10 years ago he attempted to drive while intoxicated. You said so yourself. And God knows how many other times he’s done so but simply not gotten caught.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
14 years? Just 10 years ago he attempted to drive while intoxicated. You said so yourself. And God knows how many other times he’s done so but simply not gotten caught.
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If a tree falls in the forest and nobody is around, you can’t prove it made a sound.
 
infection said:
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody is around, you can’t prove it made a sound.
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There was just an open beer can on his floor. The officer didn't actually see him drink it. Innocent, I say, there is no proof he actually drank the alcohol.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
He got the DUI. He got the ticket for such. It was simply pled down and so at the end of the day, it was as if he didn’t get one.

So it’s semantics. He was still driving under the influence. But let’s ignore the most important fact in all this and argue just to argue because that’s what you do best.
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It isnt semantics, especially when you are doing the math for what his punishment for this offense should be. People get arrested for the wrong crime all the time. I get what you are saying, that the justice system could have been played in this instance, but I wasnt there. I think it would be irresponsible to assume as such.

I dont know what Utah's laws treat attempting to drive while drunk vs actually driving drunk (in terms of it adding to the sentencing). I would assume it doesnt, because if it did, he would have had 3 DUIs in less than 10 years in 2008, which would result in 2 months of jail time.
 
I’d have some empathy if dude had fallen off the wagon, drinking himself into oblivion in his home or at a friend’s.

He didn’t do that.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
It isnt semantics, especially when you are doing the math for what his punishment for this offense should be. People get arrested for the wrong crime all the time. I get what you are saying, that the justice system could have been played in this instance, but I wasnt there. I think it would be irresponsible to assume as such.

I dont know what Utah's laws treat attempting to drive while drunk vs actually driving drunk (in terms of it adding to the sentencing). I would assume it doesnt, because if it did, he would have had 3 DUIs in less than 10 years in 2008, which would result in 2 months of jail time.
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Lol.
 
Jack Strop said:
There was just an open beer can on his floor. The officer didn't actually see him drink it. Innocent, I say, there is no proof he actually drank the alcohol.
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Assuming some spilled, what a waste of freakin’ beer too. Unless it was Buttweiser. That **** stinks.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
Because this wasn’t his first time. Or even close to it. On top of all the other times he didn’t get caught. Add in 120 mph and an open container and the privileges this clown has and I have zero ****ing empathy.
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It was the first time in 14, or in 10 years if you count the time he attempted to drive. How do you know he has done it and not got caught in those 10 years?
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
It was the first time in 14, or in 10 years if you count the time he attempted to drive. How do you know he has done it and not got caught in those 10 years?
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I don’t know. But given common sense, what the addiction tells us, and the details in this case, I am going to assume this dude simply doesn’t gaf and has done it but just not gotten caught.
 
fishonjazz said:
Part of beating addiction is getting past physical withdrawals. Prison would help with that part. I bet they also have counseling and programs in prison to help with the mental aspect as well.
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The thing tho, is getting a DUI and being an alcoholic arent necessarily connected. You can get a DUI from just drinking once a year.

He might be an alcoholic though. I don''t know the guy personally.
 
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