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Siro said:
Just so you know guys, my cousin married a soldier. Well, not exactly married, but she did **** one. So I have first hand experience with the military, which makes me the authority on everything military.

I'm not here to argue, but feel free to leave any questions you have here and I'll tell you what's up.
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I did 20 years in the military, again, thanks for playing.
 
@Siro feel free to downplay my military service. I mostly played poker and visited cool places overseas.
 
DasJazz said:
I really don't understand why you're trying to be a dick. Also, please don't downplay my or any other veteran's faithful service to our country.
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First of all, I'll downplay whatever I damn please, and there's nothing you can do about it. I know Trump and his fascist base would love to criminalize criticizing the glorious leader and his military, but since that hasn't happened yet, stuff it.

That said, I won't be disrespecting the military because others on this forum who I actually respect happen to have served as well. And this might come as a shocker, but they don't share your opinions on the military and its budget. I know I know, mainstream media sheeple, and not true free thinking 'Muricans like yourself.

As for me being a dick, there's a solution. Click on my handle and select "Ignore". That solves that problem.
 
Siro said:
First of all, I'll downplay whatever I damn please, and there's nothing you can do about it. I know Trump and his fascist base would love to criminalize criticizing the glorious leader and his military, but since that hasn't happened yet, stuff it.

That said, I won't be disrespecting the military because others on this forum who I actually respect happen to have served as well. And this might come as a shocker, but they don't share your opinions on the military and its budget. I know I know, mainstream media sheeple, and not true free thinking 'Muricans like yourself.

As for me being a dick, there's a solution. Click on my handle and select "Ignore". That solves that problem.
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Fair enough, I don't think it's too much to ask to not disrespect individual's service to the country though. No need to ignore you over one conversation, but I also don't see a point in not keeping things civil, shouldn't be too hard, right?

Also, look up sequestration, that wasn't the beginning of the "more with less" model, but it certainly hurt all branches as far as effectively running their missions for sure. I never mentioned mainstream anything or 'Muricans, blah, blah, blah, that's all you chief. Budget vs mission vs proper manning and equipment is and has been a big problem for many years for the military. That's what I was getting at the whole time and that's not really an arguable point as it's fact. Aging aircraft, etc., is one of the many issues I'm speaking of.

Now you don't have to agree with the use of our military in all aspects but the topic was funding/budget, wasn't it? Now I absolutely agree with you that there is plenty of things that can be streamlined as far as the military goes for sure but some things can not and taking away from the overall budget is certainly not a smart idea, at least not in my opinion, as humble as it is.
 
DasJazz said:
Fair enough, I don't think it's too much to ask to not disrespect individual's service to the country though. No need to ignore you over one conversation, but I also don't see a point in not keeping things civil, shouldn't be too hard, right?

Also, look up sequestration, that wasn't the beginning of the "more with less" model, but it certainly hurt all branches as far as effectively running their missions for sure. I never mentioned mainstream anything or 'Muricans, blah, blah, blah, that's all you chief. Budget vs mission vs proper manning and equipment is and has been a big problem for many years for the military. That's what I was getting at the whole time and that's not really an arguable point as it's fact. Aging aircraft, etc., is one of the many issues I'm speaking of.

Now you don't have to agree with the use of our military in all aspects but the topic was funding/budget, wasn't it? Now I absolutely agree with you that there is plenty of things that can be streamlined as far as the military goes for sure but some things can not and taking away from the overall budget is certainly not a smart idea, at least not in my opinion, as humble as it is.
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My comment about the mainstream media was in reference to your response in a different thread to a post of mine saying that I'm brainwashed by CNN or some such nonsense. I can find it if that's important.

The use of the military is very much connected to the budget. I would rather see a majority of the money taken from the military, while significantly reducing its size and scope, and diverted elsewhere. I'm not that concerned with public healthcare or other expanded social programs (altho I do think many would be worthwhile ideas to try), and would like the money going to the military to go to other industries that have nothing to do with American power projection. I lean toward redirecting the money to massive infrastructure projects that would push technology forward the way military industries do, while providing good jobs and high, yet sustainable, GDP growth. If we're going to keep that much money invested in defense, then we should use it to develop actually useful defensive capabilities, like improved cybersecurity (but I can think of a lot else!).
 
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