Stupid Pet Peeves

[bigb]

When I go to squeeze some ketchup from the bottle onto my plate and it comes out all runny and watery.
I mean I know it’s an easy fix (just shake it first) but I forget sometimes and it comes out all nasty

Along the ketchup line:
When the ketchup or mustard is almost gone, so it’s stored lid down and then you open it and it’s like Mt. Saint Helens erupting.

 

[moevillini]

Along the ketchup line:
When the ketchup or mustard is almost gone, so it’s stored lid down and then you open it and it’s like Mt. Saint Helens erupting.

along similar lines, though not necessarily food related - when the cover of the squeeze bottle/tube just can't be removed to let you get the last bit out

that's happened to me recently with shampoo and sunscreen and it really pisses me off - - you just know there's a ton left just inside the top and you just can't get at it.

 

[bigb]

People who want nothing to do with the Mormon church until they need something from it. This is true for all organizations, but I saw a post in my neighborhood Facebook page that said “Does anyone know how to get in touch with my Bishop? We don’t go to church, but we need some help right now.”

 

[Gameface]

People who want nothing to do with the Mormon church until they need something from it. This is true for all organizations, but I saw a post in my neighborhood Facebook page that said “Does anyone know how to get in touch with my Bishop? We don’t go to church, but we need some help right now.”

But this is the exact kind of opportunity the LDS church offers this kind of help for. They'll help them with some food, might cover their mortgage this month, and then they'll ask them to volunteer at the food pantry, tell them to let them know at church next Sunday if things are getting any better and if they need any help. They'll say if you need help with X talk to whatshisname after sacrament, he has helped several people with that type of thing.

I've have known people who had nothing to do with the LDS church except having a family connection to it, go there because they needed help and end up becoming very active.

 

[bigb]

But this is the exact kind of opportunity the LDS church offers this kind of help for. They'll help them with some food, might cover their mortgage this month, and then they'll ask them to volunteer at the food pantry, tell them to let them know at church next Sunday if things are getting any better and if they need any help. They'll say if you need help with X talk to whatshisname after sacrament, he has helped several people with that type of thing.

I've have known people who had nothing to do with the LDS church except having a family connection to it, go there because they needed help and end up becoming very active.

I understand what you're saying. Truly, I do. I also firmly believe in the teaching of helping people when they need it. I'm also the son of a two time Bishop. The ratio of people who grossly abuse the system vs those that become very active is ridiculous. As a young teenager, I overheard my dad having to tell people that he had to stop giving them money if they didn't show up to help clean the church for an hour or come the Sunday meetings like they've been promising to do for the last 3+ months. I find it kind of disgusting.

 

[LogGrad98]

along similar lines, though not necessarily food related - when the cover of the squeeze bottle/tube just can't be removed to let you get the last bit out

that's happened to me recently with shampoo and sunscreen and it really pisses me off - - you just know there's a ton left just inside the top and you just can't get at it.

Did you try a chainsaw?

 

[Jazz Spazz]

I understand what you're saying. Truly, I do. I also firmly believe in the teaching of helping people when they need it. I'm also the son of a two time Bishop. The ratio of people who grossly abuse the system vs those that become very active is ridiculous. As a young teenager, I overheard my dad having to tell people that he had to stop giving them money if they didn't show up to help clean the church for an hour or come the Sunday meetings like they've been promising to do for the last 3+ months. I find it kind of disgusting.

It's a tough call. I'm sure each situation is different and the best answer is probably as varied as each situation is different. There are people that abuse the system, but there are also people that truly need help in more ways than just monetary ways. I personally have found that I can't let it get to me, and trust that the Bishop does his best to make the best call. Being bothered about it only affects me, so I let it go.
To me both you and Bulletproof have points.

 

[Gameface]

So charity given to a person who doesn't become active is someone abusing the charity?

 

[Jazz Spazz]

So charity given to a person who doesn't become active is someone abusing the charity?

Na. I think the point is similar to those that ask for charity on a street corner as their job. There are people that "shop" lds bishops, and jump on new bishops to get them to pay for rent or other things for them when they don't really need it. The "abusing" the system is referring to those that don't really need help but are asking for help with false stories to get something.

It's not really about them becoming active or joining the church, but there will probably be efforts to encourage or help them spiritually as well as temporally as much as they allow. It is also temporary.

 

[bigb]

So charity given to a person who doesn't become active is someone abusing the charity?

No. I think you’re purposefully jumping to that extreme.
The Church’s (any organization’s) welfare system is designed to be used temporarily and in case of emergency. I love the Church’s welfare system.
It is also very easy to abuse. Like, beyond easy. When my dad was Bishop, he would use it benefit anyone who needed it, member or not, as it’s designed. But there were instances where someone used it long term (like the Church paid their rent for an entire 6 month lease). That is not its purpose, but it can be used that way. In those cases, my dad would ask them to participate in some things to help the Church as well, like help clean the chapel every Saturday with the other members doing it. Or shovel the snow from the Church sidewalks. Simple, easy stuff like that. There were cases where people would agree to that, but never show up. Never set foot inside the building unless they were collecting their check. Those are the ones that bother me.

 

[RJF]

No. I think you’re purposefully jumping to that extreme.
The Church’s (any organization’s) welfare system is designed to be used temporarily and in case of emergency. I love the Church’s welfare system.
It is also very easy to abuse. Like, beyond easy. When my dad was Bishop, he would use it benefit anyone who needed it, member or not, as it’s designed. But there were instances where someone used it long term (like the Church paid their rent for an entire 6 month lease). That is not its purpose, but it can be used that way. In those cases, my dad would ask them to participate in some things to help the Church as well, like help clean the chapel every Saturday with the other members doing it. Or shovel the snow from the Church sidewalks. Simple, easy stuff like that. There were cases where people would agree to that, but never show up. Never set foot inside the building unless they were collecting their check. Those are the ones that bother me.

He does that sometimes...

 

[colton]

Na. I think the point is similar to those that ask for charity on a street corner as their job. There are people that "shop" lds bishops, and jump on new bishops to get them to pay for rent or other things for them when they don't really need it. The "abusing" the system is referring to those that don't really need help but are asking for help with false stories to get something.

It's not really about them becoming active or joining the church, but there will probably be efforts to encourage or help them spiritually as well as temporally as much as they allow. It is also temporary.

Good points. There are also finite resources, so I'm sure bishops have to carefully weigh who gets helped by the donations, and to what extent. Someone who has, for example, faithfully paid tithing and other donations but has fallen on hard times may (I imagine) get a higher priority than someone who has never done that. Or maybe not, if the second individual/family is deemed to have a higher need. I'm certain the bishops in the church have many tough decisions to make.