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as none of you uneducated people now. this is the bielskie partisans!

Most of what you said about them was wrong or distorted, which we expect from you. They were brave and patriotic, but did almost nothing to help defeat the Germans. In fact, the few times that the Germans were actively looking for them, they split up and regrouped in another location. They are not evidence that armed citizens can form a military resistance to a governmental military.
 
Most of what you said about them was wrong or distorted, which we expect from you. They were brave and patriotic, but did almost nothing to help defeat the Germans. In fact, the few times that the Germans were actively looking for them, they split up and regrouped in another location. They are not evidence that armed citizens can form a military resistance to a governmental military.
i never said they defeated the germans! they SURVIVED and helped others survive! that is more than anne frank did no thanks to her weak parents.


they lived their live! they defied the tyrants! they had their own village in the woods. yes it was a village seeing as it had school, infirmary and other stuff.

they survived tyrany and lived free in jeruzalem in the woods. compared to others in the rising 3rd reich. if those 1200 pepole could have done it why not more. because like you they think you are weak when it comes to the government.

why cant villages and towns in venezuela start doing this being self sufficient? usa didnt kill king george. so their revolution is for naught.

bish please
 
Most of what you said about them was wrong or distorted, which we expect from you. They were brave and patriotic, but did almost nothing to help defeat the Germans. In fact, the few times that the Germans were actively looking for them, they split up and regrouped in another location. They are not evidence that armed citizens can form a military resistance to a governmental military.

Armed citizens engaging in an effective guerilla war against an organized military could be the US military's slogan for the last 50 years. Of course it's possible.
 
Most of what you said about them was wrong or distorted, which we expect from you. They were brave and patriotic, but did almost nothing to help defeat the Germans. In fact, the few times that the Germans were actively looking for them, they split up and regrouped in another location. They are not evidence that armed citizens can form a military resistance to a governmental military.

so you want complete and utter dominance. hell us couldnt win the vietnam war!

but these 1200 peopple lived and survived had their own little country!


so if i lived around that time you wouldnt want me to have guns or knowledge of how guns work(which requires access to guns). you would rather read my diary decades later with my stupid ramblings?
i dont have the right to defend myself, because no way i could have defeated the germans? i would have only resisted and survived!

well your post offends me. reported!
 
I read a joke on Reddit today that went:

As an Aussie, Americans are always asking me where in Australia there *isn't* something to kill you...

"School" is my answer.
 
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I read a joke on Reddit today that went:

As an Aussie, Americans are always asking me where in Australia there *isn't* something to kill you...

"School" is my answer.

crazy spiders everywhere deadly as rattlesnakes.

But with due respect, schools have other deadly weapons, including spiders.

One kid I knew killed a classmate with a screwdriver. In shop class. He got outta jail about twenty years later. All because of a fit of temper at being insulted, a rage that rose to homicide inside one minute's time..... and was gone.... displaced by the horror of what he had done.... that lasted a lifetime.

Some people should decide to work on their fits of temper and intemperate language.
 
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so you want complete and utter dominance. hell us couldnt win the vietnam war!

but these 1200 peopple lived and survived had their own little country!


so if i lived around that time you wouldnt want me to have guns or knowledge of how guns work(which requires access to guns). you would rather read my diary decades later with my stupid ramblings?
i dont have the right to defend myself, because no way i could have defeated the germans? i would have only resisted and survived!

well your post offends me. reported!
OB's post was civil and factual. But he just didn't want to swallow the idea whole...… as you were putting it.

No way could a group of one or two thousand really take on an organized military with far superior weapons, planes, tanks......of course they had to scatter and regroup when they had that coming at them. But OB missed the implications of what resistance behind the lines means to an occupying force trying to finish off a country like Russia. The Germans had to leave thousands.... many thousands of troops behind to keep their supply lines open.....

These 1200 could have been the difference on the Russian front. ten thousand Germans roaming through the woods in Poland looking for rebels.

Imagine that. The Third Reich defeated because some citizens had some guns, and some good sense. uhhhmmmm….. and because The US government had some military production facilities and way to get guns and ammo into Russia.

You do have an excellent point in this, and I am thankful you cared to tell the story.
 
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i never said they defeated the germans!

You offered them as a counter-example to "Because tyrants habitually get overthrown by private citizens with guns. And get replaced by wonderful, benevolent, freedom-loving dudes." They did not overthrow any tyrant. That doesn't diminish their heroism, if anything, it enhances it. However, you were still wrong.
 
Armed citizens engaging in an effective guerilla war against an organized military could be the US military's slogan for the last 50 years. Of course it's possible.

If the initial goal was "effective guerilla war" instead of "overthrow tyrant", I would have agreed with DutchJazzer's post.
 
An effective guerilla can overthrow a government tho.

With no outside help?

The original (sarcastic) post:
Because tyrants habitually get overthrown by private citizens with guns. And get replaced by wonderful, benevolent, freedom-loving dudes.

What are the examples of tyrants being overthrown by private citizens with guns?
 
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