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White House Discord: Bob Woodward Book, NYT Op-Ed

Stoked said:
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/09/06/politics/elizabeth-warren-25th-amendment/index.html

What are the chances that a top admin official, or even 2-3, come forward and push this?

I can’t imagine the Rs going along. But if the Ds take the House?

Also how would the hard base react? Would we see fighting?

Thoughts?
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Imo this is a red herring. The op ed is diverting attention from the Woodward book. It is a gift to the president and the Rs. The talk now is about the "deep state", the cowardice of anonymous, and conspiracy theories, rather than the credible criticism in the Fear book. The op ed piece will not benefit any cabal of sanity within the wh. If anything it will likely push the president to dig in against any voices calling for sanity. This is the kind of thing Bannon would have loved. The Times knows who it is so I don't think it is a plant, but it is a distraction from the real story.

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Stars Fan said:
Imo this is a red herring. The op ed is diverting attention from the Woodward book. It is a gift to the president and the Rs. The talk now is about the "deep state", the cowardice of anonymous, and conspiracy theories, rather than the credible criticism in the Fear book. The op ed piece will not benefit any cabal of sanity within the wh. If anything it will likely push the president to dig in against any voices calling for sanity. This is the kind of thing Bannon would have loved. The Times knows who it is so I don't think it is a plant, but it is a distraction from the real story.

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The babe(ie; tinfoil) part of me still thinks Bannon's involved, and donnie axing him was fabricated.
 
Stoked said:
I’m aware it’s a long complicated process. Just thinking out loud for those that care to do so as well.
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The process itself is not that complicated. The article Red linked to lays it all out in three short paragraphs:

”It begins with the vice president and a majority of the members of the Cabinet, notifying the Congress that the president is no longer capable of performing his duties. At that moment, the power of the presidency is transferred from the president to the vice president, who then becomes acting president."

"From there, the president can convey to Congress that he is capable of performing his duties. Unless the vice president and a majority of the Cabinet once again notify Congress that the incapacity remains, the president gets his powers back."

"If the vice president and Cabinet communicate subsequently to Congress that the incapacity remains, then Congress makes the decision. The House and the Senate convene and they must vote by a 2/3 vote of both parties to permanently strip the powers of the presidency away from the president and transfer them to the vice president.”

So a simple process but politically near impossible because of the required 2/3 vote by both the House and Senate.
 
This is great:

https://www.esquire.com/news-politi...ymous-trump-white-house-op-ed-new-york-times/



"May I just say, for the record, to hell with this person, whoever it is.

Over the past two days, I've become increasingly annoyed by the careerist bleatings of anonymous sources who would like you to know that, by enabling El Caudillo Del Mar-a-Lago and his long, slow slide into howling madness, they are really keeping him from doing some real damage to the country, and shouldn't we all be grateful for their noble, selfless work.

Jesus H. Christ on an auto-glass ad, everybody who watched him for 11 seconds on the campaign trail figured this out. You'd have to have had the brain of a marmoset not to be convinced of this back in 19-goddamn-79. More than 60 million people voted for him anyway. You took a job with him. When the scales fall from your eyes, make sure they don't hit you in the feet..."
 
Jonah said:
So a simple process but politically near impossible because of the required 2/3 vote by both the House and Senate.
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It requires bipartisanship, which at this point requires a cold day in Hell.
 
The 25th amendment is not the answer. It is intended for situations like FDR, JFK if he had been on life support, or possibly Regan if his Alzheimer's had been worse. If there is not a clear incapacitation, there would be too much infighting that would break the nation apart.

The only two ways this ends are impeachment, or election. Impeachment is only an option if the dems get control of the Senate, so we're back to change through the ballot box.

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Harambe said:
babe goes through more aluminum(foil hats) in a day than the Coca Cola company. If there's not a conspiracy, he'll surely find it.



I've been told he has donnie's tax returns. I'm not sure that's true, but if he's got that, and the records from the Trump Organization, and a guilty plea from a staff member testifying about straw funding, they've got something on the money situation.

Also something to think about; it's been reported Mueller will accept written responses for now, even if he can't ask about collusion. Accepting this could mean that he's enough evidence to properly accuse collusion, but is looking for something else. Maybe conspiracy charges. Which can probably implicate Pence.
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Hilarious ignorance, folks. Harambe is not a chemist, knows nothing about the Periodic Table or even what tin foil is. Well, just to say..... Coca Cola does not use "tin foil" in the pop cans.

The everyday reality of a TV newsroom planning for a "news" broadcast is something else.
 
babe said:
Hilarious ignorance, folks. Harambe is not a chemist, knows nothing about the Periodic Table or even what tin foil is. Well, just to say..... Coca Cola does not use "tin foil" in the pop cans.

The everyday reality of a TV newsroom planning for a "news" broadcast is something else.
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gg babe
 
Stars Fan said:
The 25th amendment is not the answer. It is intended for situations like FDR, JFK if he had been on life support, or possibly Regan if his Alzheimer's had been worse. If there is not a clear incapacitation, there would be too much infighting amid would great the nation apart.

The only two ways this ends are impeachment, or election. Impeachment is only an option if the dems best control of the Senate, so we're are back to change through the ballot box.

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Or a resignation. Or in Trump's death.
 
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