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Havent seen yall mention Billion dollar illegal empires, where you think they stand on tighter border security? Theyd be doing everything possible to strengthen the democratic party and anti trump propaganda.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
It's fascinating how many different reasons the left can come up with that our border ought to remain porous.
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Our southern border is not particularly porous now, compared with the our Canadian border, or the Afghani-Pakistani border, as examples. Long land borders will always allow determined people to find a way to cross them. Having a wall won't change that.
 
rare144 said:
Havent seen yall mention Billion dollar illegal empires, where you think they stand on tighter border security? Theyd be doing everything possible to strengthen the democratic party and anti trump propaganda.
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Are you talking about a movie or something? What is/are "Billion dollar illegal empires"?
 
surely the obvious narcotics, human trafficking etc. I know people who paid 10k to get across the border, their life savings. These coyotes make a lot of money and they're people on both sides making much $$$, but beyond that use your imagination - Anything you don't want on record to get around taxes, tariffs, sanctions. Animals, vehicles, clothes, minerals, grain, cash, all kinds of goods man. Think.
 
rare144 said:
surely the obvious narcotics, human trafficking etc. I know people who paid 10k to get across the border, their life savings. These coyotes make a lot of money and they're people on both sides making much $$$, but beyond that use your imagination - Anything you don't want on record to get around taxes, tariffs, sanctions. Animals, vehicles, clothes, minerals, grain, cash, all kinds of goods man. Think.
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Don't we make cheaper animals, cheaper grain, and cheaper minerals than Mexico? Aren't we already almost tariff-free regarding Mexico (NAFTA is still here)? I see a lot of profit in illegal goods and workers smuggling, very little in legal goods smuggling as opposed to just taking it over the border legally. Regarding the illegal goods, I don't think a border wall will deter much, if at all.
 
One Brow said:
Our southern border is not particularly porous now, compared with the our Canadian border, or the Afghani-Pakistani border, as examples. Long land borders will always allow determined people to find a way to cross them. Having a wall won't change that.
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Thank you for your input. Doesn't change anything about my statement. No matter what measure is suggested there is always a leftist who says it can't be done. Seems pretty obvious that the military rules Red was pointing out were to prevent our military from being used against our citizens. That's very different from sending them to the border to meet a caravan of foreigners who've announced that they are preparing to cross without permission.
 
There's a reason you see "made in china" on everything right, it's because it's cheaper to make things outside of USA. Also you're thinking one dimensional, we export products. Texas is the biggest manufacturer in the US I believe. Mexico is not necessarily the final destination. Also another personal story, I know of a nanny just got brought over by a wealthy jewish family in New York, she's their second.

Anyway, I'm wasting my time...
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
That's very different from sending them to the border to meet a caravan of foreigners who've announced that they are preparing to cross without permission.
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The caravan has announced most of its members will be seeking asylum. The military will just stand there and watch.
 
rare144 said:
There's a reason you see "made in china" on everything right, it's because it's cheaper to make things outside of USA.
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It's cheaper to make various goods in China in large part because of supply chains and infrastructure. That's not true of Mexico.

I do agree you are wasting your time, although we probably disagree on why your time is being wasted.
 
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Joe Bagadonuts said:
Seems pretty obvious that the military rules Red was pointing out were to prevent our military from being used against our citizens.
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I'm not an authority here by any means, but a quick search brought up this article.

https://www.vox.com/2018/10/29/18026646/military-border-caravan-immigrants-trump-caravan

"So why can’t US troops do what Trump wants and arrest immigrants who may be coming across the border illegally? Well, it’s against the law.

The US military is barred from using its capabilities directly to enforce US domestic laws — including immigration laws — unless Congress specifically authorizes it to do so. This measure, known as “posse comitatus,” is why US troops can only support US border agents, but not take direct action themselves."
 
One thing we are very unlikely to see are hoards of enraged Central Americans humming rocks at American soldiers. So foolish it is to pay any attention to what is obviously designed for the domestic consumption of Trump's base. He's a big shot. We are being invaded. He's protecting us. Our president is a freaking idiot.
 
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