Fact-Checkers........

[babe]

So you dont want to report it just hope that by bringing it up that mods will notice and do something about it? Or just want to complain and bring attention to it? Or are you trying to make yourself a martyr by pointing it out frequently?

I dunno. public shaming of political opponents is unheard of nowadays, what with everybody being so pleased as punch about Trump.... or Hillary. Or Google doing the Banned in Boston schtick about people who have millions of interested readers pro and con.

One of my points in the OP is the current Chairman Mao..... err Xi.... who has reclaimed the old Mao residence from museum status and moved himself in. David Rockefeller actually said Mao did a good job on China. Really. But Xi today not only has an aggressive pirate program stealing proprietary and/or patented technology, in addition to requiring companies locating in China for the cheap labor to reveal their methods and technology to the Chinese Army-owned Nationalized Industrial complex, he is also having Google do a complete internet data harvesting system, so the government knows everything anyone says.... and scores them on compliance and support for the regime. The system China has emplaced on its net routinely suppresses views not complimentary to the powers that be.

So anyway, since it is in fact liberals who are working.... gladly.... with the Chinese.....supernet legends.... helping the good cause along, it is only to be expected that our liberal "friends" seem to be accepting this kind of society.

Where is the outrage in our Press and other media?

oh, I forgot. The Chinese are heavy investors in the stock of these corporates, and have their people on the boards of directors...…

of companies that have contributed hundreds of millions of dollars to political candidates in just the 2018 midterms.

no, no..... that's nothing. We have to see what Trump can be accused of without evidence, right. By that same "objective" Press.

But I digress.... I need to get some stuff on Snopes first.

and yah, this is a rant, and I've offered no evidence. Google it. oh, I forgot. you won't find this kind of stuff there anymore.....

 

[babe]

It's because of a thousand year old document? Surely that's not true. Societies' norms progressed naturally and organically in response to their circumstances. A process that no longer suits certain parts of society that prefer a type of stasis around their preferred, archaic, worldview.

I get it. You like things to change to suit..... But the Magna Carta is still a legal reference point. A lot of our laws trace back to it. I guess you don't know about it. Before the Magna Carta, the Divine Right of Kings was often asserted in everyday life in ways you could hardly believe today.... because since the Magna Carta, almost everyone in Western society believes in some human rights.

No so much in China, Russia, or the Middle East......

 

[Alfalfa]

I get it. You like things to change to suit..... But the Magna Carta is still a legal reference point. A lot of our laws trace back to it. I guess you don't know about it. Before the Magna Carta, the Divine Right of Kings was often asserted in everyday life in ways you could hardly believe today.... because since the Magna Carta, almost everyone in Western society believes in some human rights.

No so much in China, Russia, or the Middle East......

The magna carta emerged as a response to evolving egalitarian sentiments within Christian societies. Those same forces continued to develop and shape the evolution of Western culture. Similar sentiments emerged elsewhere in the world at some time or another, but were not carried as far as the Europeans carried them because their histories did not unfold in a similar manner, with a technological explosion that allowed European supremacy and for their ideas to disseminate. We are not a reflection of the magna carta or any other document. They are a reflection of us.

As our living circumstances and experiences change, new ideas must evolve. And that's better than religious adherence to a static worldview.

 

[Ron Mexico]

I dunno. public shaming of political opponents is unheard of nowadays, what with everybody being so pleased as punch about Trump.... or Hillary. Or Google doing the Banned in Boston schtick about people who have millions of interested readers pro and con.

One of my points in the OP is the current Chairman Mao..... err Xi.... who has reclaimed the old Mao residence from museum status and moved himself in. David Rockefeller actually said Mao did a good job on China. Really. But Xi today not only has an aggressive pirate program stealing proprietary and/or patented technology, in addition to requiring companies locating in China for the cheap labor to reveal their methods and technology to the Chinese Army-owned Nationalized Industrial complex, he is also having Google do a complete internet data harvesting system, so the government knows everything anyone says.... and scores them on compliance and support for the regime. The system China has emplaced on its net routinely suppresses views not complimentary to the powers that be.

So anyway, since it is in fact liberals who are working.... gladly.... with the Chinese.....supernet legends.... helping the good cause along, it is only to be expected that our liberal "friends" seem to be accepting this kind of society.

Where is the outrage in our Press and other media?

oh, I forgot. The Chinese are heavy investors in the stock of these corporates, and have their people on the boards of directors...…

of companies that have contributed hundreds of millions of dollars to political candidates in just the 2018 midterms.

no, no..... that's nothing. We have to see what Trump can be accused of without evidence, right. By that same "objective" Press.

But I digress.... I need to get some stuff on Snopes first.

and yah, this is a rant, and I've offered no evidence. Google it. oh, I forgot. you won't find this kind of stuff there anymore.....

I am not completely sure what point you are making or trying to make. I take it you dont know how to Google stuff? The story of China stealing intellectual property is all over the media. Google it you will find plenty on it including articles from CNN, NYtimes, and everyone else.

 

[str8line]

@babe I tried to text you but apparently the number I have is your angry wife who doesnt appreciate receiving random texts. Anyway, I'm heading out to CA today for the typical so if you're that way as well hit me up. I'll buy you some real fish and chips this time, maybe. That goes for any other who is Californian too.

What's the "typical"? A white supremacist rally? You and Babe must make a fetching pair at those. And maybe that's why Babe's wife is mad.

 

[babe]

What's the "typical"? A white supremacist rally? You and Babe must make a fetching pair at those. And maybe that's why Babe's wife is mad.

ha ha

He has a job, goes to regional conferences.

I'm in CA quite a lot..... about every week. When I'm in Utah I'm nowhere near his job.

 

[babe]

I am not completely sure what point you are making or trying to make. I take it you dont know how to Google stuff? The story of China stealing intellectual property is all over the media. Google it you will find plenty on it including articles from CNN, NYtimes, and everyone else.

fair enough in fact. I haven't used Google for months.

 

[babe]

So I did google Snopes today. wow.

There are some folks like The Daily Mail making allegations, so Snopes "fact-checks" the Daily Mail and calls them liars. Par for that hole.

Conservative sources generally operate on a shoestring in personnel and funding, but the money-bag liberal sources look for every mistake they can to call them unreliable.... while they do not really do the basic journalism on their issues, and obviously ignore critics or contrary facts generally. Trump sees them doing that and calls them "fake" whatever.

I recognize the Bigs have some serious intellectual advocacy working on their cause, and can overwhelm the tinys. So I look for the effort to be fair, if I can find it.

Here is Snopes, addressing charges about their funding.....

https://www.snopes.com/disclosures/

Facebook is the largest disclosed donor, with the fact in view that there is an on-going project between Snopes and Facebook.
Facebook is known for deplatforming political conservatives. A California candidate in a US House race had her stuff squelched twice during this last campaign. Lessee..... anybody dispute Facebook's Badge of Liberalism?

There is actually so very much more on this that I did not know. Unfortunately, I have to head for California for the days before Thanksgiving.

Overall, I think the effort being made to address critics does some credit to Snopes. Last time I looked in on them, it was stonewall on funding....

 

[One Brow]

Or, say, a politically-relevant Snopes report that favors say Libertarians or Constitutionalists.

I just saw one today rebutting a liberal conspiracy theory.

 

[One Brow]

Lessee..... anybody dispute Facebook's Badge of Liberalism?

I do. I've read the complaints of liberals regarding Facebook for years.

 

[Getting Traded]

How did you come to that conclusion and where is the source for your info on that?

People who dont like their info have claimed they are getting their funding from George Soros but that is just silly baseless claims with no evidence. Snopes has provided information about their funding. You can look it up and see it. But that would require actual research which you didnt do.

I have to agree with Babe about this. I definitely think that while they do some solid research they tend to agree with "facts" that support their POV. The fact that they won't reveal their source of funding is suggestive of that, and that I think is fact that cannot be disputed. If they are truly unbiased, then they would reveal who funds them.

 

[idestroyedthetoilet]

What's the "typical"? A white supremacist rally? You and Babe must make a fetching pair at those. And maybe that's why Babe's wife is mad.

Bitch please. If I were taking babe somewhere in CA it'd be to Bohemian Grove for the gat