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GlassEater said:
I don't see Millsap or Harris as "big trades." KOC - and the Jazz organization - have made trades before to upgrade a position. Giricek for Stevenson and then Korver for Giri. Hornacek replacing Jeff Malone. It's also not unprecendented for the Jazz to have an extremely promising young player replace a popular veteran (Green traded to make way for Stockton). Jazz might be looking at a shrinking cap and decide that having those big salaries for potentially backup players is just too expensive. I won't be surprised if one is moved. My bet is Harris, with the Jazz drafting Knight.
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And how about that 1st ever 4-team trade that brought Donyell Marshall to Utah?
 
NUMBERICA said:
If Singleton's unanimous draft-ceiling is 12, then the Jazz are failing. They need to be trying to get someone else to slide, not seemingly indicate that they're hell-bent on reaching on a guy you might not be able to leave on a court because he can't do anything offensively.
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I guess if you base your argument about him sliding on mock drafts on the internet. LOL. How do you know he isn't ranked higher on actual GM boards. As far as your comment goes about him not being able to do anything offensively (I disagree), weren't you (along with many on this board salivating over the idea of taking Biyombo). If you weren't then I apologize but I recall you talking about how all we needed Biyombo to do is play defense and be able to dunk the ball. He isn't actually an offensive machine.
 
jazzrule said:
I don't understand the meh for Singleton on this board. When I think of Singleton I think of Shane Battier, I always wanted a player like that on the Jazz. All he has to do is hone his 3 point shot to be that for us.
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It's not that simple for starters. He shot OKAY in the NCAA from 3 last year on a very limited amount of attempts and most players don't improve when the distance is farther and competition is tougher. How long were we saying this same thing for AK and Brewer? Wesley Matthews didn't. Have great form but he at least shot and made 3s at a good rate at Marquette. The Jazz are either blowing smoke, they know something we don't (naturally, but what exactly?), or they're stupid enough to be weighing pros and cons between a guy that can shoot but no one knows what else, and a guy that should be able to defend but no one knows what else he will be able to bring at all.

I don't mean to hijack this into another Biyombo discussion, but the one position you can afford to have little offensive skill and you pay a premium for defensive ability is C. Otherwise, you have to be able to somehow factor into an offense and I don't see how Singleton does.

I'd rather have Jimmy Butler, and I think he's the most Battier-esque in this draft (same measurements, college graduate, defense is his calling card but can offer you something outside of it [a little bit of everything], incredibly well-spoken, you won't find a better personality/intangibles guy in this draft, really smart, fundamentally strong, plays team-first and plays to win).
 
I like Jimmy Butler too but he is bottom first or early second. Sorry but if Mark Eaton or Ostertag had any offensive skills the Jazz would have won a championship. Except for a few games throwing the ball into them was pointless and it also allowed teams to cheap on Malone.
 
Jazz4ever said:
Highly doubt that. Throwing a 19 year old kid into the fire like that isn't really the Jazz style. Even DWill, who came out 2 years older than Knight, was given limited minutes the first year.
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I think you mean Sloan style. I am waiting to see the Jazz style post Sloan.
 
Utah Jazz Team Overview

2010-11 record: 39-43
Fourth place, Northwest Division
Did not make the playoffs


DRAFT PICKS:

Round: 1

#3
#12



Areas of Strength:
Frontcourt depth. Led by Al Jefferson and Paul Millsap, the Jazz have solid pieces to work with up front. They also have youngsters like Derrick Favors and Jeremy Evans, two athletic bigs with loads of potential. A health(ier) Okur solidifies the first unit and offsets some of the potential sting of losing a veteran like Andrei Kirilenko.
Needs Work:
Backcourt depth. Devin Harris put up solid numbers (16 points and 5 assists) after coming over in the Deron Williams deal, but there are still questions about the guys behind him. Both Ronnie Price and Earl Watson could go elsewhere, leaving the Jazz without a clear option behind Harris.
Two Stats That Matter:
21.5 -- Without Williams around to lead the way, Jefferson assumed the role as the No. 1 scoring option for the Jazz. Both his scoring (18.6) and rebounding (from 9.6 to 11) numbers rose after the All-Star break.
.595 -- For a player as active on the boards as Favors has proved to be, he has to shoot much better from the free throw line if he expects to log crunch time minutes.
The Way To Go:
With two picks in the Lottery (No. 3 and No. 12) the Jazz should be able to get what they need in the Draft. The only team in a more advantageous position is Cleveland (No. 1 and No. 4). The Jazz could use the picks to swing a deal for an established talent, but they need to add bodies to their rotation, particularly in the backcourt. They'll have their choice of virtually whatever they need with the 3rd pick and then with the 12th pick they can fill another position of need with a Lottery talent.
2010-11 Team Stats:
Offensive: 104.9 (14th)
Defensive: 107.3 (24th)
Under Contract:
G: Raja Bell
G: Devin Harris
F: Paul Millsap
F: Derrick Favors
F: Gordon Hayward
F: Jeremy Evans
F/C: Mehmet Okur
C: Al Jefferson
Free Agents:
G: Earl Watson (Unrestricted)
G: Ronnie Price (Unrestricted)
F: Andrei Kirilenko (Unrestricted)
F: C.J. Miles (Team Option)
F: Francisco Elson (Unrestricted)
C: Kyrylo Fesenko (Unrestricted)
-- Sekou Smith

Recent Draft History2010 2009 2008 2007 2006
9. Gordon Hayward20. Eric Maynor23. Kosta Koufas25. Morris Almond14. Ronnie Brewer55. Jeremy Evans50. Goran Suon44. Ante Tomic55. Herbert Hill46. Dee Brown53. Tadija Dragicevic47. Paul Millsap
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cowhide said:
Sorry but if Mark Eaton or Ostertag had any offensive skills the Jazz would have won a championship. Except for a few games throwing the ball into them was pointless and it also allowed teams to cheap on Malone.
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Oh come on. Now we're playing "what ifs"? What if Jordan had stayed retired then? What if Hornacek was bigger, stronger, and more athletic? What if the Jazz didn't sign Gail Goodrich? What if the Jazz had a center that could guard anyone in any way that wasn't as slow as him in the last 5 years? What if Eaton was in his prime in the mid-90's? What if Bavetta wasn't a dick? What if free agents wanted to come to Utah and/or Larry could get them?

There is one position where you overlook offensive shortcomings to get great defense. It's not a wing.
 
It may have already been brought up, but in case it hasn't, Brian Windhorst who was the Cavs beat writer last year (now is at ESPN thanks to The Decision), tweeted this morning:
"Heard enough stories about Cavs in-depth research into Derrick Williams to convince me they're considering him for No. 1 pick."
Just thought I'd share.
 
somebody said:
From @ABJCavsInsider:



Enes Kanter and Brandon Knight on the same day?
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Yes, it's a theory that they could pick Kanter #1 and then pick up Knight at #4. I'm sure they want to see how well they play together.

In other words, the draft could go like this:

#1 - Kanter
#2 - Irving/Williams (probably Williams)
#3 - Irving/Williams (Irving if Williams goes first)
#4 - Knight

Minnesota had said that they wouldn't be opposed to having Irving backing up Rubio. They've also said that they could take Williams and then do a trade or not. They have options.

Personally, I hope this is how the draft goes because Irving to me is a better fit for the Jazz than Knight. Knight and Kanter would work because Knight could slash and dish or keep the defense away from Kanter for kick-outs.

That being said, if we did get Irving, I would bring AK back because of his superior passing and fastbreaks. That'd be sweet with Irving, Hayward and AK running the break.

If Minnesota takes Irving, Williams explosiveness would provide a lot of extra excitement for this team. Plus, he would have high trade value if we decide to go that route.

In this scenario, AK's contract would have to be a good value to bring him back. Otherwise, a sign-and-trade would probably be best for both sides. Of course, that's unless AK decides to head overseas for good.
 
Hope this has not already been posted.

NBA issues 'green room' invitations

By Chad Ford
ESPN.com
Archive
Every year, the NBA tips its hand as to who it believes are the top 14 or 15 prospects in the draft with its annual "green room" invitations.
These players are invited by the league to sit in a special room with their families and agent on draft night. When their names are called, they leave the room and go up on stage to shake commissioner David Stern's hand.
This year's invitees to the June 23 draft:
Kyrie Irving (Duke); Derrick Williams (Arizona); Enes Kanter (Turkey); Brandon Knight (Kentucky); Kemba Walker (UConn); Jonas Valanciunas (Lithuania); Jan Vesely (Czech Republic); Kawhi Leonard (San Diego St.); Chris Singleton (Florida St.); Klay Thompson (Washington St.); Tristan Thompson (Texas); Jimmer Fredette (BYU); Marcus Morris (Kansas); and Alec Burks (Colorado).
A 15th name has been added -- Markieff Morris of Kansas. Markieff is Marcus Morris' twin and also widely considered to be a top 20 draft pick.
The only conspicuous name left off the list is Bismack Biyombo from Congo. Several others, including USC's Nikola Vucevic; Providence's Marshon Brooks; and Texas' Jordan Hamilton have an outside shot of cracking the lottery as well.

In the past, the NBA has expanded the list as the draft date draws closer.

Of course, players aren't prohibited from attending the NBA draft without an invite to the green room. Players can sit in the stands with the fans and walk up on stage when their names are called.
Chad Ford covers the NBA and NBA draft for ESPN Insider.
Follow Chad Ford on Twitter: @chadfordinsider
 
Guitaro said:
Yes, it's a theory that they could pick Kanter #1 and then pick up Knight at #4. I'm sure they want to see how well they play together.

In other words, the draft could go like this:

#1 - Kanter
#2 - Irving/Williams (probably Williams)
#3 - Irving/Williams (Irving if Williams goes first)
#4 - Knight

Minnesota had said that they wouldn't be opposed to having Irving backing up Rubio. They've also said that they could take Williams and then do a trade or not. They have options.

Personally, I hope this is how the draft goes because Irving to me is a better fit for the Jazz than Knight. Knight and Kanter would work because Knight could slash and dish or keep the defense away from Kanter for kick-outs.

That being said, if we did get Irving, I would bring AK back because of his superior passing and fastbreaks. That'd be sweet with Irving, Hayward and AK running the break.

If Minnesota takes Irving, Williams explosiveness would provide a lot of extra excitement for this team. Plus, he would have high trade value if we decide to go that route.

In this scenario, AK's contract would have to be a good value to bring him back. Otherwise, a sign-and-trade would probably be best for both sides. Of course, that's unless AK decides to head overseas for good.
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I would be happy if the jazz got the leftovers between Williams and Irving. What kind of offers could the Jazz offer to get both? Any trade ideas?
 
Dream Draft would be......

Trade the 3rd pick and 12th pick and Raja Bell for 2nd pick and 20th pick and Webster
2nd - Draft Derrick Williams
Trade Millsap for 6th or 5th pick. Draft Biyombo 6th
20th - Draft Reggie Jackson.

Harris - Reggie Jackson(20th) - Watson
Hayward - Miles
Williams(2nd) - Webster - Evans
Favors - Biyombo(6th)
Jefferson - Biyombo(6th) - Okur - Fesenko
 
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