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2019 Trade Deadline Discussion

We need a star that can be along for Donovan’s prime. They shouldn’t be a PG and they can’t be a C.

Neither of the guys being discussed in the rumor mill fit that criteria.
Why cant it be a PG? Harden and CP3 are both PGs and do well together when healthy. Conely is a pretty elite 2 way player my only concern is that is going to start declining.
 
I like Harris but I dont think he is that big of a difference maker and especially not at a max contract. He does not rebound well and does not play good defense. Jabari has been playing better defense then him lately.

He is also having career highs in most of his statistics. Is that a trend or an anomaly?

I would rather chase other players but I guess he could be okay as well. I dont think he is a max player though, but I could be wrong.
Every year is a career year for him. He’s been productive every year he’s been in the league but gets better every year.

A 4 that can create his own shot, scores efficiently, is unselfish, doesn’t get injured, and is loved by his teams is not Jabari Parker.
 
So he’s a shooter and has potential. We have some shooters.

I’m not saying Porter isn’t a good player and isn’t useful, but the price tag is pretty plainly ****ing ridiculous, especially in a down year. The price tag matters because it effectively bars the team from improving the roster, and that roster isn’t going to get it done.

We have too many shooters?

Who is the player that will get it done?

We cant improve the roster after being over the cap regardless of who it is except the MLE, which we will still get. Besides we usually improve through trades and draft, which we can continue to do.
 
To me, the best realistic scenario is trading for Porter w/o giving up Rubio.

I would love Conley, but I think the market's going to be too hot and out of Utah's range.
 
Every year is a career year for him. He’s been productive every year he’s been in the league but gets better every year.

A 4 that can create his own shot, scores efficiently, is unselfish, doesn’t get injured, and is loved by his teams and organizations is not Jabari Parker.
I am not saying I prefer Jabari but a 4 that does not play defense is not worth the max unless he is an elite scorer. Harris is not an elite scorer. I dont know how Jabari's teammates feel about him nor do I know about Harris. But Parker can create and shoot. I dont know about unselfish. I would much prefer taking a risk of Jabari for a cheap deal then paying Harris the max.

I would not say he has improved every year. He has been up and down statistically. But if you believe his play this year is indicative of improved play thats fine. That is just a concern of mine.

I think Harris playing the majority of the 4 minutes only slightly improves us over Favors playing some 4 and backup 5 with Crowder getting most of the 4 minutes. Harris means losing Favors who is putting up better advanced numbers than Harris. It also means cutting Crowders minutes back. Crowder plays much better defense than Harris and his hustle is contagious.

Harris means better offense and worse defense for the Jazz.
 
I'd rather send out Rubio and hang on to Favors. Would do either though.
Favors would be playing 15-18 mpg (same with Crowder, if not less) with OPJR on the team. The Jazz need a PG from somewhere else if they trade Rubio and it doesnt make sense for the Wizards to give us Sato.
 
Why cant it be a PG? Harden and CP3 are both PGs and do well together when healthy. Conely is a pretty elite 2 way player my only concern is that is going to start declining.
Since when is anyone that has never made an all-star game or all-NBA team elite? And the dude has a troubling injury history over the last few years. And what about switchability and size on the perimeter?

He also isn’t really in our timeline and his salary eliminates any real possibility of improving the roster.
 
I am not saying I prefer Jabari but a 4 that does not play defense is not worth the max unless he is an elite scorer. Harris is not an elite scorer. I dont know how Jabari's teammates feel about him nor do I know about Harris. But Parker can create and shoot. I dont know about unselfish. I would much prefer taking a risk of Jabari for a cheap deal then paying Harris the max.

I would not say he has improved every year. He has been up and down statistically. But if you believe his play this year is indicative of improved play thats fine. That is just a concern of mine.

I think Harris playing the majority of the 4 minutes only slightly improves us over Favors playing some 4 and backup 5 with Crowder getting most of the 4 minutes. Harris means losing Favors who is putting up better advanced numbers than Harris. It also means cutting Crowders minutes back. Crowder plays much better defense than Harris and his hustle is contagious.

Harris means better offense and worse defense for the Jazz.
The improvement in offense vastly outweighs the loss in defense.

Jabari Parker can’t get regular minutes on the ****ing Bulls after the team that tanked to get him basically waived him. After 2 ACL tears. And he is fat, and entitled, and proud that he doesn’t play or even value defense.

Harris is an all-star candidate.

You are completely off.
 
Since when is anyone that has never made an all-star game or all-NBA team elite? And the dude has a troubling injury history over the last few years. And what about switchability and size on the perimeter?

He also isn’t really in our timeline and his salary eliminates any real possibility of improving the roster.

Cap space in Free agency is of very little concern to me. The Jazz dont chase FAs often and will almost always get outbid or have a better market team make an offer. Any single player we get eliminates us from chasing FA. We dont have that much cap space and if we sign any PG including Rubio we wont have any cap space.

His age is concerning to me. His play is not. He has been very solid for a long time and a great 2 way player. He can pass, shoot, create, and is a great teammate. All-star game appearances is not a indicator for how good a player is to me.
 
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