elan_prodigy
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Big double finger to Utah FO. ****. YOU.
Jazz have been extremely aggressive in FA, re-sign Ricky Rubio and pick up Derrick Favors option
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I mean, my point is... things that appear obvious from some angle end up being not so. Why are we so confident about what we will or won't do in the future? We can look back on things now in hindsight and rationalize why things don't go to possible plan. Is that not a possibility in the future, that things don't go to plan and we sit back saying "well, yeah, it didn't, but here's why..."
elan_prodigy
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Entering full savage mode. **** you Dennis and **** you Rubio you floppy haired muppet!
Jack Strop
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When do the Jazz have to opt in to Favors and Korver? Might be before they know if any decent FA needs to settle on an offer.
Ricky can just have a cap hold until DL decides to bring him back.
You guys who are expecting Dennis to be a big player in free agency are delusional. Everyone except Thabo and Udoh will be back. Then Lindsey will again be deciding whether to give the last roster spot to a scrub or use the MLE on a mid-tier FA.
I know we joke about it, but the health of the players will be the biggest "acquisition" for next season.
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Ricky can just have a cap hold until DL decides to bring him back.
You guys who are expecting Dennis to be a big player in free agency are delusional. Everyone except Thabo and Udoh will be back. Then Lindsey will again be deciding whether to give the last roster spot to a scrub or use the MLE on a mid-tier FA.
I know we joke about it, but the health of the players will be the biggest "acquisition" for next season.
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//r00t 4 Jazz
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On the flip side here are my contrarian thoughts, many people here are always wanting the Jazz to try and be different, well today they were. They were one of four teams in the entire NBA that didn't make a trade which included the Spurs. Which leads to my next thought, many people are wondering why the Jazz can't be more like the Spurs well today they were.
That is all carry on.
That is all carry on.
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You completely miss the point. We don't want the jazz to be different from everyone else, we want them to be different than they themselves have been for years and years and actually ****ing do something.
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If they have free agency confidence why did we have a good offer on the table for Conley?
MVP
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You should be happy he protected your favorite glassman from being traded to Memphis for Conley.
MVP
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We had. Yet we value Exum (
LoPo
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Which is why I'm not upset by sitting on our hands. I will be if we bring the same product next season by keeping Favors and Rubio.
As for upgrades, the losses of Jonas and Burks cancel out the additions of Korver and Grayson. I don't think we upgraded the team, but at least we didn't downgrade either.
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Because it's a risk vs reward proposition. The Jazz thought the price they offered was low enough to offset the risk of FA, but any higher the risk of FA is the better bet.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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We basically turned everything around when Korver got here. We were a horrible three point shooting team before Korver, and much more consistent since.
As far as Mirotic goes, you’re right, hadn’t thought of that before. He would seem to be a one year rental. Someone tell me if I’m wrong. If we strike out on Harris, I think he’s easily get able.
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I'm just gonna go on record now saying I'm pretty stoked about Tobias Harris getting shipped out of LA. I have a feeling he's going to want nothing to do with Philly in the off-season, and I really think Utah will have as strong a shot as anyone at his doorstep.
Time will tell.
Time will tell.
elan_prodigy
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Im not against Dante being traded. Beleive it or not Im 100% in on the Jazz and their Championship aspirations. I know Ricky isnt part of that blueprint and know that the room for error is so small that we cant keep throwing away assets.
All this was straight after the deadline and I was in full rant mode with a guts full of RAGE!! My apprentice absolutely copped it today.
Favors will be renounced ONLY if we need the capspace to sign someone better.
TheStormofWar
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I'm trying to understand the residual saltiness here. Lindsey has made trades and acquisitions nearly every deadline and off-season since joining the Jazz, which typically has been good for the team. Most of the deals this deadline, if not all of them, don't directly impact the Jazz's standing or remaining schedule much. Sacto made some nice moves, but the Clipps and Grizz are bowing out. Simply put, it didn't actually CHANGE anything in the Western Conf itself.
Lindsey didn't overpay for a almost-allstar PG on the decline who's contract would albatross the organization for a few years. Is Conely good? Yes. Would he have made the Jazz better on the right deal? Probably, yeah. Is Memphis smoking drugs? Absolutely. Frankly, I think Exum was an overpay as far as his contract, but it wasn't bad comparatively and he could still grow. But I get the feeling Memphis wanted Exum, two 1sts, and Rubio. Frankly, that's too much for Conely.
Beyond that, most of the players previously linked to the Jazz went for deals that might just be rentals, but that doesn't pan out a lot of times and Utah will have a chance to sign one or a few of them outright without giving up picks or losing rotation players in the organization's long term plans.
Utah needs to make some plays this off-season, that's a given. But you don't trade simply for the sake of making one. I wanted Utah to make some sort of deal, but that doesn't happen sometimes. Stuff happens. Settle down folks, damn.
Lindsey didn't overpay for a almost-allstar PG on the decline who's contract would albatross the organization for a few years. Is Conely good? Yes. Would he have made the Jazz better on the right deal? Probably, yeah. Is Memphis smoking drugs? Absolutely. Frankly, I think Exum was an overpay as far as his contract, but it wasn't bad comparatively and he could still grow. But I get the feeling Memphis wanted Exum, two 1sts, and Rubio. Frankly, that's too much for Conely.
Beyond that, most of the players previously linked to the Jazz went for deals that might just be rentals, but that doesn't pan out a lot of times and Utah will have a chance to sign one or a few of them outright without giving up picks or losing rotation players in the organization's long term plans.
Utah needs to make some plays this off-season, that's a given. But you don't trade simply for the sake of making one. I wanted Utah to make some sort of deal, but that doesn't happen sometimes. Stuff happens. Settle down folks, damn.
The only way DL is going to renounce Rubio and Favors is if he can sign a max free agent.
I've been over the list of possible max free agents this summer and shown why it is extremely unlikely we get anyone who is an upgrade over Rubio/Favors to sign. Ive asked you multiple times and you still haven't answered my simple question... who do we get this summer? I don't think you can answer it.
The reality is that it's like a 95% probability that we strike out in both free agency and trade and DL just re-signs Rubio and Favors because there is no better option. Thinking otherwise is delusional.
gomretat
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A voice of reason. Very well said.
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I see you forgot to take your medicine, baby steps..