Jazz ban 2nd fan for calling Westbrook "boy"

[NUMBERICA]

People outside of Utah view Utah as weird. Not "they're all just racist," but strange or peculiar. Mormonism is a strong reason for it. People out of the state view it as a cult and regressive. There are some other NBA markets that are whiter than Utah (I think Portland and maybe Milwaukee), but people outside of Utah see it as a weird state run by a religious organization that is seen as a cult. I'm not sayin it's right, but it's the reality. I've been to Utah a few times and found the people and the state very nice, but yeah this is the perception of Utah from people outside of the state. Because of this, when there is an incident at a Jazz game, it blows up because it confirms peoples's biases about the state.

Utah has the lowest percentage of black people of virtually anywhere in the country. That includes Alaska. Milwaukee has a large black community, Portland has its historical issues with racism but they are also currently the epicenter of social awareness/progressivism.

That being said, Utah has diversity in some other ways, but the power structure here is truly and obviously centered around the church and straight white men. Utah is certainly a unique place. Aspects of that make me love it and aspects of that really don’t.

 

[zyzz]

Utah has the lowest percentage of black people of virtually anywhere in the country. That includes Alaska. Milwaukee has a large black community, Portland has its historical issues with racism but they are also currently the epicenter of social awareness/progressivism.

That being said, Utah has diversity in some other ways, but the power structure here is truly and obviously centered around the church and straight white men. Utah is certainly a unique place. Aspects of that make me love it and aspects of that really don’t.

Yup, that's why Jazz fans have to be particularly careful at games. If fans are yelling at players walking through the tunnel at Staples Center, no one will bat an eye. If they see it happening at Vivint, I guarantee people will assume there are racial slurs being thrown out.

 

[RobDMB]

My question in all of this: How many fans are gonna get lifetime bans when a particularly sensitive player points security at an annoying fan for being "mean" (without any evidence, or any actual racism/hate)? Is this gonna be exploited during playoff games to silence the crowd? Or is that just a paranoid idea?

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[fishonjazz]

You know Fish by now. He is just posting out of frustration here that there's no way for him to really get what's ok and when it's ok. Dude is feeling stereotyped himself.

This is true and it is wrong if me and I have done enough (too much probably) to make my point and will step back and just try to observe, learn, and make the best of this issue going forward.

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[carolinajazz]

"In the Heat of the Night" classic line! "You got a name, boy?" Rod Stiger saying that to Sidney Poitier also known as "Virgil Tibbs!"

 

[vegas]

This is true and it is wrong if me and I have done enough (too much probably) to make my point and will step back and just try to observe, learn, and make the best of this issue going forward.

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It's a human need to be understood. You are one of the posters that make this place welcoming. My intent is to defend you and who you are tbo.

 

[fishonjazz]

It's a human need to be understood. You are one of the posters that make this place welcoming. My intent is to defend you and who you are tbo.

I appreciate that man, thanks

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[infection]

Yup, that's why Jazz fans have to be particularly careful at games. If fans are yelling at players walking through the tunnel at Staples Center, no one will bat an eye. If they see it happening at Vivint, I guarantee people will assume there are racial slurs being thrown out.

I think the difference between the expectations and beliefs about places like LA and NY vs. somewhere like SLC is relevant. If someone makes a racial comment in LA or NY, is it easier to think “wow, there are racists here,” as opposed to hearing it in Utah and thinking “wow, they are racists here”? I think the difference is quite subtle, yet very important.

 

[NUMBERICA]

My question in all of this: How many fans are gonna get lifetime bans when a particularly sensitive player points security at an annoying fan for being "mean" (without any evidence, or any actual racism/hate)? Is this gonna be exploited during playoff games to silence the crowd? Or is that just a paranoid idea?

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Paranoid idea.

 

[NUMBERICA]

"In the Heat of the Night" classic line! "You got a name, boy?" Rod Stiger saying that to Sidney Poitier also known as "Virgil Tibbs!"

Is that really a classic line, or are you just reminding everyone what your worldview is?

 

[Utesnjazz]

My question in all of this: How many fans are gonna get lifetime bans when a particularly sensitive player points security at an annoying fan for being "mean" (without any evidence, or any actual racism/hate)? Is this gonna be exploited during playoff games to silence the crowd? Or is that just a paranoid idea?

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I am wondering the same thing. Where does it end?

 

[Miggs]

They call me Mr. Tibbs!