Happy No Collusion Day Everyone

[Hotdog]

Trump knows this, and it's exactly why he continues to do it. He doesn't want the press to behave any differently. He's perfectly happily being able to call any unflattering coverage "fake news" and it plays perfectly into the whole victim narrative the far right is so fond of these days.

Gotta love the party of victimhood trying to flip it and call the party of self responsibility the party of victimhood.

So you know its super douchey to play the victim constantly, but you choose to be on the side of the victim players, while simultaneously deflecting and also using it as an insult?

 

[Hotdog]

Just to keep everyone up to date.

Believing in social justice is bad, it means you're a social justice warrior, which as awesome as that sounds, is actually bad.

Being virtuous and expecting virtue in our society and amongst our leaders is also bad, it's called "virtue signaling." It's bad because you're bullying non-virtuous people with your virtue and signaling other virtuous people to pile on.

So it's not very nice to people who want to live in a society with less social justice and less virtue, and they aren't taking it anymore! They've got their hero, their icon of social injustice and dis-virtue. They are going to laugh at you when they are able to destroy social justice, when their leader acts without virtue, and there's nothing you can do about it.

They live to troll that which is good.

That was a good post. It was fun to read. It had sarcasm, but ironically was another way of virtue signaling. I found that amusing. Was that on purpose?

 

[Hotdog]

Depends on who is on the other side of the conversation.

Are you white?

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

Your conversations aren't hard to figure out.

I made a point about photos of children in cages that were attributed to Trump having actually come from the Obama era and you try to turn it into some sort of evidence that I don't follow media that reported the facts during the Obama presidency. Have fun chasing your demons. Your comment had absolutely nothing to do with the conversation so apparently you can't even figure out the conversations of a simpleton like me. If you think you have a point how about linking us to an article that showed the media getting all up in arms over the policy that Obama initiated to put children in cages.

 

[Red]

No Red.

Actually, the way a lot of people have been responding to Trump has been wild over exaggerations combined with the need to virtue signal. Somehow that energy between those people who choose to take that side feed off each other and just make it worse by trying to top each others outrage.

I have consistently said he isnt a perfect man of ideal president, but I defend him because he is not accurately portrayed as a human being. All these so called morally superior people literally use harsher language to describe Trump than anything I have ever heard him say or do. Its unbelievable. You people here completely dehumanize him and put him on the level of some of the worst humans to ever live. Its a complete joke. There is are no facts to back up any of the nonsense that is spewed. Its all ridiculous hysteria.

No, NPC D4617, I do not find how I described Trump to be inaccurate or even close to being over the top. He is a cynic who understood how to speak to disaffected people in American society. Many demagogues have just that gift, and when societies are undergoing significant demographic, social, and cultural changes, it's just not unusual for such cynical strong man types to take advantage of the stress accompanying such changes in an effort to assume power.

Once elected, his core support will often relate to him in a cult-like dynamic. I see now that he has begun claiming yesterday that the Mueller investigation was an attempt to overthrow the government, and the people behind it were guilty of treason. Such a dangerous direction to go, and we should all recognize that fact! As I've noted many times, we can expect him to identify anybody who opposes him as an enemy of the people. Anybody who challenges him will be cast as un-American. Not at all unusual for this type of leader to conflate his being with the state. The only good press will be a compliant press, which is oblivious to the benefits of an adversarial press, something every president since Washington has endured.

I can assure you there are 10's of millions Americans that will not appreciate being identified as enemies of America. The president is not the state. And those of us who oppose this man are entitled to see ourselves as patriots in support of our constitution. Whether you like that or not.

 

[One Brow]

I made a point about photos of children in cages that were attributed to Trump having actually come from the Obama era and you try to turn it into some sort of evidence that I don't follow media that reported the facts during the Obama presidency.

Your weren't bring up the children in cages during your anti-Obama posts years ago.

If you think you have a point how about linking us to an article that showed the media getting all up in arms over the policy that Obama initiated to put children in cages.

How many would you like? I'll start with 3.

"Obama is being just as thickheaded -- and hardhearted."
https://www.cnn.com/2014/06/30/opinion/navarrette-obama-immigration-children/index.html

https://www.npr.org/sections/itsall...obama-immigrant-detention-policies-under-fire

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/26/us/detained-immigrant-children-judge-dolly-gee-ruling.html

 

[One Brow]

Are you white?

Everyone around me thinks that I am, therefore I am.

 

[Hotdog]

No, NPC D4617, I do not find how I described Trump to be inaccurate or even close to being over the top. He is a cynic who understood how to speak to disaffected people in American society. Many demagogues have just that gift, and when societies are undergoing significant demographic, social, and cultural changes, it's just not unusual for such cynical strong man types to take advantage of the stress accompanying such changes in an effort to assume power.

Once elected, his core support will often relate to him in a cult-like dynamic. I see now that he has begun claiming yesterday that the Mueller investigation was an attempt to overthrow the government, and the people behind it were guilty of treason. Such a dangerous direction to go, and we should all recognize that fact! As I've noted many times, we can expect him to identify anybody who opposes him as an enemy of the people. Anybody who challenges him will be cast as un-American. Not at all unusual for this type of leader to conflate his being with the state. The only good press will be a compliant press, which is oblivious to the benefits of an adversarial press, something every president since Washington has endured.

I can assure you there are 10's of millions Americans that will not appreciate being identified as enemies of America. The president is not the state. And those of us who oppose this man are entitled to see ourselves as patriots in support of our constitution. Whether you like that or not.

Oh, so 10's of millions of people dont like being vilvilif? Weird, because that is exactly how the left paints the right in America. Remember Hillary Clinton calling the right the deplorables? I dont understand how you completely ignore the other side of the argument here.

Trump doesn't need to say the things he is saying. Its how a whole bunch of people in this country feel. He isnt brainwashing anyone. People see his flaws and just go with it because they have no other choice. Its either lay down and get run over, or stand with the Orange Man.

And yes, Russia Gate was an attempt at over throwing a duly elected president. Plain and simple. You can keep trying to push the narrative even though the facts are out now. Its doesnt matter. You wont be changing any minds. Just like you didnt change mine when I guaranteed the results of the investigation. I even offered you a bet that you wouldnt take. I made the bet because of how obvious and easy it was to call. Its sad that your BS meter is that broken.

Is it not alarming to you that for two years you heard that there was evidence and facts that he was a Russian asset? Yet now, those facts and evidence are no where to be found? How do you not feel stupid for trusting the media and the left? Better yet, how in the world are you still believing it?

If you are that brainwashed when it comes to Russia Gate, how do you know you are not brainwashed into everything else you believe about Trump?

Maybe reality isnt what it seems. Just saying.

 

[Red]

At literally every turn, he has delayed implementation of sanctions against Russia, and Russian interests. Research it. At every single occasion. I'm sorry, but it is a fact and impossible to miss.

https://qz.com/1535650/trump-insider-got-board-spot-after-us-lifted-sanctions-on-russian-company/

But, we shall see what his words mean here:

https://mavenroundtable.io/theintel...ectualist&utm_campaign=Twitter&utm_term=Cheri


President Trump suggested on Wednesday that he is open to using the U.S. military to force Russia from Venezuela.

If Russia refuses to withdraw its military delegation in Venezuela, the United States is prepared to use military force to send them home, President Donald Trump suggested on Wednesday.

 

[One Brow]

Remember Hillary Clinton calling the right the deplorables?

No I don't. If you remember that, you are remembering her sentence inaccurately. She referred to sexists, racists, homophobes, xenophobes, and Islamophobes as "deplorables", and say they made up about half of Trumps supporters (for those inclined to understand basic English, meaning the other half were none of the above). I was always amused at the people wearing the 'Deplorable" t-shirts; I wanted to ask them which sub-group they identified with.

 

[babe]

Everyone around me thinks that I am, therefore I am.

If your colorlessness or particular shade of pigmentation is a social construct, you are a true liberal, I suppose.

But facts are not determined by opinions.

but hey, you be you.

 

[babe]

But, we shall see what his words mean here:

https://mavenroundtable.io/theintel...ectualist&utm_campaign=Twitter&utm_term=Cheri


President Trump suggested on Wednesday that he is open to using the U.S. military to force Russia from Venezuela.

If Russia refuses to withdraw its military delegation in Venezuela, the United States is prepared to use military force to send them home, President Donald Trump suggested on Wednesday.

@red.....

Some now think Trump has made his "deal with the Devil", so to speak. Meaning that with some political elements of the Establishment, he is moving towards the Centrist political hill, the "high Hill".....falling in line with the swampcritters he can't fire..... because they are nearly everybody, and nobody will be hired to replace them except more dedicated Establishment drones.

Proof of this is the choice of AG Barr, SCJ Cavanaugh…. a whole Junta of military chiefs long known to be on the world management wagon. Even Fox is moving Center.

America, from the Centrist position, is what Rand Paul and his dad call "The Problem"..... America the World Cop on the global beat. If it was a Bush league President, like Romney, we wouldn't be letting Russian military assistance go into Venezuela. It's be "The Cuban Missile Crisis" all over again, already.

There is a little war going on amongst the Dems. Naughty Barry and Mischievous Michele came a hair's breadth from being "found out" inciting race riots in Chicago, not because of the dedicated journalism of CNN...…. We all know that Obama threatened and intimidated, and secured compliance from his puppet Press and they don't dare, yet, overtly go against "HIM". But Rahm Emmanuel has jumped ship already, and he wouldn't do that without good reason.

Obama and Soros and Oprah are one faction pushing the "Young Turk" or "Social Justice" Dems. But Hillary and Biden are going to seize the Democratic "High Hill" or Moderate Dem Center. And, by degrees, our Press will leave the crazies high and dry.

In the "Rush To The Center", which will be the winning position, Trump might even tap Romney as his running mate for 2020.

Trump is going to do his own version of DACA and he will produce a TrumpCare that is economically superior to ObamaCare, and even Pelosi will sign off on it.

We will have a new "Monroe Doctrine" for the Americas as well..... Brazil will assume a role in it..... It'll be a sort of Trump "No Socialism in My Back Yard" thing..... but..... well, as "socialist" as we are for sure. It'll have lots of deals, lots of corporate prosperity, lots of global fascism for sure.

But hey..... it won't be rank idiocy driving America to the poorhouse.