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Did We Give Up on Kanter and Hood Too Soon

The Jazz did not give up on Kanter, he wanted out. OKC traded him, the Knicks waived him so the Jazz were not the only people seeing flaws in his game. However, I will give Kanter Kudos for playing well since going to Portland and playing hurt.

As far as Hood goes, he failed being the guy. He has really struggled since leaving the Jazz. I am happy for him because I think Rodney is a good guy but he is too inconsistent. He also seemed to pout a little once he realized he wasn't going to get paid like he wanted to get paid.
 
Kanter was always great around the basket.
Hood was always a pretty decent outside shooter.

What does Exum do well offensively? Running 100 mph into the paint and throwing the ball at the backboard as hard as he can before crashing into the stand?
Obviously with all of his injuries it's hard to say exactly what he can do, but he's pretty clearly shown in flashes that he's an elite 1 v 1 perimeter defender and he's also capable of running a point and getting to the rim with zero resemblance of a pull up game or consistent outside shot. He has some elite NBA tools but Jazzfanz don't care because he's hurt 80% of the time and we only get to see these flashes in like 3% of the remaining 20% while the rest of it is Exum playing like ****, being put in Quin's doghouse, etc. By the time he hits the 3% he looks sensational, then gets hurt for the rest of the season again.

I honestly don't blame Exum haters for the injury frustration, I'm frustrated too as a Exum stan and the injuries have completely undervalued him as a player/prospect. But pretending like he's completely useless and hasn't shown anything is just stupid, he was a big factor in a number of those December wins against teams like Portland for example and in a lot of games the Jazz have lost against elite NBA teams it's painfully obvious that having a healthy and in form Exum off the bench would have been a fantastic weapon off the bench to have against these elite teams in the West between his ability to easily get to the rim to allieviate some shot creation pressure off of Mitchell, and his ability to take the tough perimeter assignment on the other end. The eternal question with him will be can he stay healthy or not.
 
It was a concern to me when he was hired (he was known for this intensity wearing on players and teams) and it’s a slight concern to me now.
And yet there is no better locker room in the league, or brotherhood in the nba. Just look at the players that left because they were disgruntled. Kanter Hood Burks Lyles. Each left because they were not as good as they thought they were or just soft bitches. I call it Quin weeding out the trash, which he did. There are far more players that enjoyed playing for Quin, fact is you can’t make everyone happy
I give Portland and Kanter credit. He looks far thinner to me which is what he needed imo as do most nba players. It’s what Jae could def use.
Jae came into this year in the best shape of his life, what are you talking about.
I think Hood could be back in a Jazz Jersey next year. His value has dropped from when he was in Utah and his ego has also been put in check without his confidence being diminished, but his shot is still there. I think his shooting and being able to back up the 2 or 3 would be invaluable.
Lol. Not sure what to say about this. Lol
Now you wana act like kanter and hood are world beaters? Hahaha. Kanter is a total dunce, he is acting like hes playing with a sepperated shoulder to add drama to his life like everything else he does. Guys a clown. Does anybody actually buy his ******** of playing with a sepperated shoulder? Lmao!
Didn’t he separate his shoulder while with the jazz and miss the final 20-30 games or whatever it was?
Doing coke will do that.
Proud of you! First step is admitting you have a problem
Both 26 years old and playing big in primetime ,the Playoffs.........too bad the Jazz players couldn't perform when the bright lights shined on them.
Last year the players preformed very well, just not their year this year.
Yes, and we got nothing for the both.

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Maybe you don’t like the players we got for them, but you can’t say we got nothing. Rubio was fantastic the last half of last year, and Crowder I thought had a good year this year. Both have their flaws, but so did Kanter and Hood.
 
I know Kanter is like the WWE bad guy in the valley, but he is playing like a boss for Portland with a separated shoulder. Hood hit the game winner last night and Spidey's and Rudy's tweets expressed love and happiness for the guy. Basically Portland got both guys out of dumpsters this year. I know salary cap and all but man we could have used both these guys vs Houston.
Absolutely not. Both should’ve been traded earlier and/or for more.

They’re fine players. Kanter didn’t want to be here and didn’t want to work, Hood became a low-key cancer and regressed over time.
 
As others have mention each players situation was a bit different.

Kanter was unhappy with his role and seemingly with the team and that only got worse once Gobert started getting minutes and it was clear he was and is the better player and so he wanted out, which seeing as he was up for his first big contract is understandable just went about it immaturely. That aside the way the roster and team is built the only minutes he'd get is Udoh's cause he isn't and wouldn't be playing over Gobert or Favors.

Hood as stated thought this would be his team as he was scheduled to take over for Hayward and it was stated in the local media that something changed with him over the summer with his "camp". Speculating that with his contract extension and bigger role people in his ear were telling him some bad advice sorta Hill.

Unlike some people here I always and still do like Hood and think if he's been humbled he'd be a good 6th man type role player getting about 23-28min a night, who could start when injuries role through and I would welcome him back.
 
I’m gonna say this and I hope I’m wrong or proven wrong. I love Quin. He’s a top 10 coach in my eyes and maybe top 5. But I think he’s really ****ing intense. Too consistently. He does seem to have a sense of humor but even then there’s an intensity to him.

It concerns me because I feel as a coach there are times you need to use a very human element and calm the players, or at other times, pull them aside and give them a vote of confidence. I definitely think he attempts to do things like this if you watch him over the course of a game but there’s so much intensity all the time. I never see him taking a step back and taking a different approach and humanizing himself more in order to reach those players.

It was a concern to me when he was hired (he was known for this intensity wearing on players and teams) and it’s a slight concern to me now.

Having read an interesting article about the Blazers coaching staff and how they’ve worked hard with Lillard on emotional intelligence over the last year or so, I feel it’s something Quin himself and the players could use. To me they’re interrelated.

Quin is perfection. He has no faults.

Pops is a complete dick, and rips his players apart. But, players love him. I love him.

Quin is cut from the Sloan mold. He doesn't care about your feelings. You play hard or ride the bench like a sybian.


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Didn’t read any of this but this isn’t a fair question... these guys gave up on us... I think Rod Hood could come home this summer if things broke right. He needed to know his best role on a winning team is 6th man... if he had bought in I think he’d still be here. Good guy and I will always root for him. Honestly I’m rooting for Kanter too... strong guy and I feel just awful for him. He was so young and immature here... I’m not sure he’s figured out who he is but he seemed like he was really struggling here. I’m happy for them both.
 
As proof that Hood is still liked, despite some peoples posts in here, Jazz players were tweeting Hood after his game 3 performance and Mitchell specifically went out of his way and to point out that he was one of the most helpful players in his rookie year when he didn't have to since they were competing for minutes.

To me that points to mostly the reason being contract dollar amount and then his place on the team being the #1 option, which he was to start but Mitchell quickly took that role from him. As others have said now that he's had a season and half away from the Jazz maybe he's still willing to consider Utah this summer.

Also Mission Accomplished never lets facts get in the way of his narrative of the Jazz FO has all teh sucks, all of them.
 
Didn’t read any of this but this isn’t a fair question... these guys gave up on us... I think Rod Hood could come home this summer if things broke right. He needed to know his best role on a winning team is 6th man... if he had bought in I think he’d still be here. Good guy and I will always root for him. Honestly I’m rooting for Kanter too... strong guy and I feel just awful for him. He was so young and immature here... I’m not sure he’s figured out who he is but he seemed like he was really struggling here. I’m happy for them both.

I'd like to see Kanter's reception in SLC soften a bit. He may have said some unkind things when he left, but he does not deserve the boos raining down forever. Anyone who is willing to stand up to authoritarians like Erdogan deserves some credit. He is playing hard, and I respect that. Hood I would welcome back in the role he is in now for the Blazers...no questions asked.
 
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Problem is they are both very one dimensional. In a right system and for limited minutes they can be useful for sure. I think I miss Hood more than Kanter TBH.

I'll take a couple of one dimensional players and call them assets. There's a few teams in the 2nd round of the playoffs that we are all watching from home that are doing just that as part of the success within their roster. I think it's fair to say that the Jazz lost miserably to the Rockets because of our lack of dimensions. We tried to play one dimensional defense to stop Harden and failed. They didn't have to do anything to stop us. We stopped ourselves because we ran out of "dimensions."
We got nothing for Kanter. Nothing. We brought him up and traded him for absolutely nothing. Instead of recovering some sort of asset for him, we got nothing for him!
Well, ok, you could call a couple of nobodies, somethings, but we never valued our somethings, so yes it was nothing. We traded him for Kendrick Perkins (who we cut and intended to cut immediately), the rights to draft Tibor Pleiss, rights to Grant Jerrett as well as a future 1st round pick from OKC and a 2nd round pick from the Pistons. (A common pattern with the Jazz, just see the past and you will have a good idea of the Jazz tendencies of the future.) Just so everyone is aware. There are 29 other teams in the NBA and drafting a talented guy and just letting him walk is something that no team tries to do, nor makes a name for their team while doing it. It happens rarely, except for the Jazz. It is something of the norm with us. Generally that player is traded and the team recovers an asset of some kind for his talent that is valued by that team. (See Gordon Hayward who showed signs of signing with the Celtics for several months before the trade deadline in which we did nothing about it but cross our fingers)
If you would like to state that we thought our assets for Kanter were going to be more than what they were, everyone knew exactly what we were getting for him, Nothing!
So what happened to one of our draft pics for Kanter? A pick was traded to acquire Rubio (The most one dimensional player on the planet). We all know what we are left with there. And of course our 2nd round picks equated into nothing, Because our staff doesn't value 2nd round picks. As for Hood, His trade could've been sweeter than it was. We traded him for Crowder and for Rose. We cut Rose immediately and he went on to the T-wolves and did very well with a few injuries as were expected. Happy to have Crowder, but essentially, we helped to pad Cleveland in their 3 team trade in attempt to help them survive post LeBron. We are protecting our Salary boundaries so much that we can't even make it past the first round of the post season because of our lack competency. We need to take risks, calculated risks, or any risks. Something to stay relevant. I don't think we are the team that can sit back and call players one dimensional.
 
Why? Pointing to Jokic being dirty and intentionally hitting his injured shoulder? That is a dirty as it gets.
Boxing out for a rebound is dirty? Damn, how soft is this league getting. If he's worried about his left shoulder get on the other side of the basket on free throws. Rudy gets hit harder on every single rebound.
 
Boxing out for a rebound is dirty? Damn, how soft is this league getting. If he's worried about his left shoulder get on the other side of the basket on free throws. Rudy gets hit harder on every single rebound.

You're right, he should have boxed him out with some clever mind tricks.
 
Boxing out for a rebound is dirty? Damn, how soft is this league getting. If he's worried about his left shoulder get on the other side of the basket on free throws. Rudy gets hit harder on every single rebound.
this is not boxing out by any rules of the game. It is intentional elbowing. Should be at least flagrant 1.
 
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