You're the GM this offseason. What do you do?

[Douchebag K]

I'm about 80% convinced that Tobias Harris is coming to the Jazz after seeing what is going down in Philly. While part of me says "Great! Bring it!" another part thinks he isn't really our greatest need. I'm pretty sure I would rather have Jimmy Butler (if that were an option.)

Tobias Harris is about as good a fit offensively as we could hope for in this system. He’s got skills in every facet of the offensive game that we could utilize

 

[Douchebag K]

Kyle Korver: One of the best spot up shooters in league history

Joe Ingles: Career 40.8% 3 point shooter. 44% in both 16/17 and 17/18

Thabo Sefolosha: 43.6% from 3 this season

Donovan Mitchell: 36.2% from 3 on 6.7 attempts per this season. Could shoot an even higher percentage if someone else could create and score off the bounce/be an offensive threat.

Royce O'neale: 38.6% from 3 this year

Jae Crowder: Not a great 3 point shooter overall but he is very good on spot up 3's above the break

Hell even Georges shot 41% in limited time.

We have guys who can shoot. It just means jacks*** when the defense isn't threatened by anyone but Donovan going off on them.

Sorry but Jae Crowder isn’t “very good” at above the break 3s

 

[Ron Mexico]

Of course we didn't shoot well vs Houston. Because Donovan was the only one who is a threat to break anyone down off the dribble. He's the only one that they actually had worry about guarding. Other than that they could just stay in front and play basic defense on everyone else. One way to create spacing is to have players who can break defenders down off the dribble.

You can have 5 spot up shooters on the floor at once and they wouldn't shoot for **** if none of them can create their own offense off of the dribble.

You are discounting the fact that we lead the NBA in open 3 point shots per game in the playoffs. We didnt hit those open shots anywhere close to our averages. We created the shots we wanted and got in the regular season but didnt hit them, plain and simple. It is incorrect to say people could just stay home on their guy because they didnt. They left our shooters open and they missed.

 

[Ron Mexico]

The Jazz front office is bound and determined to pick up a shooter or two as they know that will take them to the next level. We don't want no head cases or ISO dummies, we need SHOOTERS, plain and simple. They are out there somewhere.

Agreed, which is why Rubio is such a bad fit on our team and not a winning player in the NBA ever in his career. He cant shoot and he likes to iso, shoot poorly, or run the pick and roll at low efficiency since he still cant throw a reasonable lob to a big.

 

[Jingled]

That is pretty easy. Philly is not going to offer him the 5 year max. Nor, probably, should they.

I'm not so sure. I doubt they gave up two first round picks and Landry Shamet for a 3 month rental of Tobias. I think they'll be willing to do whatever it takes to keep him.

 

[Douchebag K]

I'm not so sure. I doubt they gave up two first round picks and Landry Shamet for a 3 month rental of Tobias. I think they'll be willing to do whatever it takes to keep him.

One of him and Jimmy will miss out a max ...

 

[Jingled]

One of him and Jimmy will miss out a max ...

They could pay them both if they're willing to go deep into the luxury tax.

 

[framer]

They could pay them both if they're willing to go deep into the luxury tax.

They have Simmons on deck for a big contract pretty soon too.

 

[framer]

I'm not so sure. I doubt they gave up two first round picks and Landry Shamet for a 3 month rental of Tobias. I think they'll be willing to do whatever it takes to keep him.

They aren't the brightest front office. They continually waste picks.

 

[Jack Strop]

They aren't the brightest front office. They continually waste picks.

Same could be said about our front office. Lindsey has wasted a ton trying to get a PG and sold a few others.

 

[Sandman822]

i get where you're coming from but Isaiah is washed. Needs a hip replacement like my grandma

You're probably right, I'm just trying to think of some buy low type guys right now to fill out a bench.

 

[Keefe]

Tobias Harris is about as good a fit offensively as we could hope for in this system. He’s got skills in every facet of the offensive game that we could utilize

He’s got skills every single team could use.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I'm not so sure. I doubt they gave up two first round picks and Landry Shamet for a 3 month rental of Tobias. I think they'll be willing to do whatever it takes to keep him.

They also have a rookie GM and may have been planning on letting Jimmy leave... the playoffs may be a bit eye opening there. I think there is a chance they throw 5 year max there... but it’s not a given.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

Same could be said about our front office. Lindsey has wasted a ton trying to get a PG and sold a few others.

Right name all the misses but none of the successes. And there were plenty. There is not one gm in the league that can say they have more wins than fails.

 

[Carbon13]

Tobias is a B+ level player that fits in almost perfectly in our system.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

Trying to think out of the box a little. The moves I’m thinking of makes us super deep, we don’t get that max level guy everyone wants but the moves in proposing, covers most of our weaknesses. Gives us athleticism, shooting and more perimeter defense. Only problem is we may not be able to afford these moves. Cap Gurus, please chime in.

Mitchell. Exum. Allen
Danny Green. O’Neale
Bojan Bogdanovic. Ingles
Crowder. Niang
Gobert. Dedmon

Can we afford Bog, Green, and Dedmon if we don’t resign Rubio, Favors, Neto, Udoh, Thabo?

If so, does this make us a contender? On paper I love this roster. My one concern is can we afford this, is this a practical offseason haul?

 

[NUMBERICA]

Of course we didn't shoot well vs Houston. Because Donovan was the only one who is a threat to break anyone down off the dribble. He's the only one that they actually had worry about guarding. Other than that they could just stay in front and play basic defense on everyone else. One way to create spacing is to have players who can break defenders down off the dribble.

You can have 5 spot up shooters on the floor at once and they wouldn't shoot for **** if none of them can create their own offense off of the dribble.

I’m not sure I follow you. The Jazz shot the most wide-open threes of the entire playoffs in that series and just clanked the hell out of them.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Kyle Korver: One of the best spot up shooters in league history

Joe Ingles: Career 40.8% 3 point shooter. 44% in both 16/17 and 17/18

Thabo Sefolosha: 43.6% from 3 this season

Donovan Mitchell: 36.2% from 3 on 6.7 attempts per this season. Could shoot an even higher percentage if someone else could create and score off the bounce/be an offensive threat.

Royce O'neale: 38.6% from 3 this year

Jae Crowder: Not a great 3 point shooter overall but he is very good on spot up 3's above the break

Hell even Georges shot 41% in limited time.

We have guys who can shoot. It just means jacks*** when the defense isn't threatened by anyone but Donovan going off on them.

It also means jack **** when you can’t play lineups with 4 or more shooters because you have to give minutes to Rubio and Favors. It also means jack **** when everyone misses their open shots for basically an entire playoff series. I don’t think that happens to teams that are legit with their shooting.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Tobias is a B+ level player that fits in almost perfectly in our system.

And that counts. I’m still in. If they can also add Alex Caruso, that is an A offseason for me.

 

[Roy_McAvoy]

I hate to bring this up again, but what in the hell was Dinwiddie doing signing a $3 year/$34 million extension this year?! I get that he was healthy and wanted to lock in the deal, but I have to think someone like the Jazz would've given him a $45-$50 million deal over 3 years. The Jazz could've done that and still had space to retain Favors for those who love him (or sign someone else like maybe Mirotic). That seems like that would've been a great route to go to add two impactful players.