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You're the GM this offseason. What do you do?

Jingled said:
We can actually trade Favors without guaranteeing his contract, we just can't take back any salary. Dan Clayton answered a question about trading Favors on draft night a few weeks ago.

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If that's true, that's big. Pure sweetener. If you can find a team above the cap that really wants him, you could maybe get something instead of simply waiving him, maybe including that in a multi-team trade.
 
NUMBERICA said:
If that's true, that's big. Pure sweetener. If you can find a team above the cap that really wants him, you could maybe get something instead of simply waiving him, maybe including that in a multi-team trade.
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I get that we can't take any salary back for Derrick. However, Clayton didn't mention the other side of the equation. Is Derrick's value for the incoming team $0? I can't believe that would be a loophole left open. Since we'd still be in the current NBA year, I'd bet money that his incoming value could very well be his current salary or next season's. So team X would need to have the cap space open to make the trade (within the 125%) and then would be in the same position - they could either keep him or waive him to open up cap space. I couldn't find that side of the equation mentioned in the Cap FAQ's. Would welcome someone who can find a ruling on it, or example from a previous season under the most recent CBA agreement.
 
If Favors' contractual trade value is $0 and Korver is $3.44, we really don't have much value there. We would have to trade them to a team who is about to have space who really wants to pay Favors $18 million for a year or Korver $7.5 for a year.

I think both those guys have much more value as expirings after the moratorium who are quality players. Like Favors vs Parsons or Biyombo or Reggie Jackson or Ryan Anderson etc.

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LoPo said:
I think both those guys have much more value as expirings after the moratorium who are quality players. Like Favors vs Parsons or Biyombo or Reggie Jackson or Ryan Anderson etc.

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Not sure 1yr deals are great "expirings" after the moratorium. Most teams looking to make those deals would want to do so to clear 2019 space. At the deadline in 2020 "expirings" might have value. But tbh, the 2020 FA's aren't knocking anyone's socks off. Maybe as a way to avoid luxury tax, especially if a team could get under the tax by trading away players within the 125% rule and not taking back the full value in incoming salaries.
 
Jack Strop said:
Not sure 1yr deals are great "expirings" after the moratorium. Most teams looking to make those deals would want to do so to clear 2019 space. At the deadline in 2020 "expirings" might have value. But tbh, the 2020 FA's aren't knocking anyone's socks off. Maybe as a way to avoid luxury tax, especially if a team could get under the tax by trading away players within the 125% rule and not taking back the full value in incoming salaries.
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Yeah, Favors and Korver have very little trade value unless it's for a really bad expiring player (Parsons, Anderson, etc) or for some team who wants to dump a decent player who has a bad long contract (Love, Conley, Olynyk, etc).

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LoPo, just MHO, but I don't see "dumping" of a contract as netting much value. Teams like Dallas, Atlanta, Phoenix, etc could all take on salaries. We're not getting a 1st rounder for taking on Parsons Anderson, etc. Conley would have been nice, but now we'll be looking at 1 season less and at a greater price (can no longer throw in Rubio). I don't see us going that route. I see Lindsey/Zanik looking at player X for Derrick and our 1st rounder at the deadline. Hopefully they don't zero in on just one player. That's one of the reasons Memphis played chicken with Lindsey. They knew that was it for him. Zanik needs to have two deals on the table and play the teams against each other. First team to call him back gets a deal.
 
Jack Strop said:
LoPo, just MHO, but I don't see "dumping" of a contract as netting much value. Teams like Dallas, Atlanta, Phoenix, etc could all take on salaries. We're not getting a 1st rounder for taking on Parsons Anderson, etc. Conley would have been nice, but now we'll be looking at 1 season less and at a greater price (can no longer throw in Rubio). I don't see us going that route. I see Lindsey/Zanik looking at player X for Derrick and our 1st rounder at the deadline. Hopefully they don't zero in on just one player. That's one of the reasons Memphis played chicken with Lindsey. They knew that was it for him. Zanik needs to have two deals on the table and play the teams against each other. First team to call him back gets a deal.
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I wasn't saying I would do a trade of Favors for Parsons. I was just illustrating that Favors doesn't have much trade value at that $18 million.



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Jack Strop said:
I get that we can't take any salary back for Derrick. However, Clayton didn't mention the other side of the equation. Is Derrick's value for the incoming team $0? I can't believe that would be a loophole left open. Since we'd still be in the current NBA year, I'd bet money that his incoming value could very well be his current salary or next season's. So team X would need to have the cap space open to make the trade (within the 125%) and then would be in the same position - they could either keep him or waive him to open up cap space. I couldn't find that side of the equation mentioned in the Cap FAQ's. Would welcome someone who can find a ruling on it, or example from a previous season under the most recent CBA agreement.
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It would have to be straight up for a pick, rights, or as a throw-in in a larger trade. I don't see why those rights couldn't fetch a 2nd from a good team by itself.
 
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