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You're the GM this offseason. What do you do?

stitches said:
https://www.lockedonjazz.net/jazz/l...ve-and-jeremy-woo-of-si-com-on-the-nba-draft/

#LockeWatch: "The more I talk to people around the league, the more I think about things I'm guessing a large portion of what the Jazz do this off-season is going to be done PRIOR to July 1st"

-Jazz want talent upgrade - significant interest in doing it at PG
-less of an interest of doing it at PF if you can keep Favors.
-slight upgrade at PF? if you keep Favors (i.e. what Locke did in the mock draft - TRADE THE FIRST ROUNDER for player who cannot stay on the floor in the playoffs!!!!)
-Kemba is probably not possible - he's not leaving supermax to come to Utah, also has options for NY and LA...
-Jimmy Butler - probably not interested in
-Middleton - not likely - MKE probably going to pay him
-Harris - if Butler leaves PHI, Harris is going to stay, but if he leaves, there are lots of of other options for him
-he seems to think the Jazz don't have much of a chance with the FAs above
-the only options left - Russell and Conley
-He's heard Russell and PHX are tied together and likely destination for DLo
-if you can, why not just do Conley deal now then? That's the safe route. if you can do it without losing Favors, is it even more appealing?

So in essence - Locke is selling the security of getting Conley and not risking being left empty-handed. I hate this mode of thinking so ****ing much. It's the exact frame of mind that has us in the position we are - keep picking the safest route with the highest floor and keep avoiding taking chances just so you don't end up in the worst case scenario.
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from Locke's words, it seems to understand that Lindsey's plan (to focus on the FA 2019) failed miserably ... we must hope in the Trade ..
 
David Ginola 14 said:
from Locke's words, it seems to understand that Lindsey's plan (to focus on the FA 2019) failed miserably ... we must hope in the Trade ..
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This is why Kevin Love is our backup if we don't get Conley. The FO may not even know that yet.
 
Conley would be huge... I understand the frustration... Hill Rubio now Conley... Conley is by far the best of those guys and it ain’t close... those guys both came in and had huge years in our system... Conley would be so damned good for us... getting him for a late first will be looked at like highway robbery by mid season.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
If Kevin Love is the backup plan I’m cool throwing two firsts for Conley...
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fishonjazz said:
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Don't worry. We'll wait free agency out because it wouldn't be until the 6th/7th until we made the trade.

If we're lucky, we'll trade a conditional first rounder that turns into second rounders, and they'll trade us back the second rounders we gave them. Our conditional pick reverts back to those second rounders if not conveyed.
 
We could easily get a guy like Niko in free agency. If he was the primary target... would be a decent value compared to what the max guys will get. So we still can be a free agent player if we put Exum, Bradley, 1st and maybe Korver or Crowder in the deal. But we’d actually be playing in a game we’d be likely to win. Playmaking perimeter player is the biggest need... and honestly I’m not into Russell at all... I think he will end up being bad money on his next deal.
 
What do you guys think about this type of scenario:

I'm trying to figure out if Gallo+Conley to the Jazz scenario is possible(LAC will need to get rid off Gallo for another max slot)...

if we stretch Korver and renounce all the FAs we are at 19.2M of capspace. Gallo's salary is 22.6 so we need about 3.4 more... we don't have a contract like that so... we probably will have to send Crowder or Exum away for nothing somewhere. Lets say Crowder for pure capspace...somewhere... I think someone will pick him up and might even give up some small compensation for him(similar to the Bradley for Morris deal BOS did when they needed to clear capspace for Hayward).

So we are at about 27M of capspace. We absorb Gallinari into that capspace.

And now we trade future draft compensation+Favors+Exum(27.25M) for Conley(32.5M)... this one should be legal... right?

What we are left with:

PG: Mike Conley, Raul Neto, ???
SG: Donovan Mitchell, Grayson Allen, ???
SF: Joe Ingles, Royce O'Neale, ???
PF: Danilo Gallinari, Georges Niang, ???
C: Rudy Gobert, Tony Bradley, ???

We pretty much gut any depth we have, but the starting lineup looks good. The ??? will have to be filled with the draft picks(23 and 53), room MLE and other vet minimum contracts.
 
A lot of the talk yesterday around the AD trade was whether New Orleans would need the trade completed July 6th or July 30th. The Lakers are going to have a lot less cap space because that trade is going to be completed July 6th. If you could agree to a Conley trade and push it until July 30th, that would open up some possibilities in free agency.
 
stitches said:
What do you guys think about this type of scenario:

I'm trying to figure out if Gallo+Conley to the Jazz scenario is possible(LAC will need to get rid off Gallo for another max slot)...

if we stretch Korver and renounce all the FAs we are at 19.2M of capspace. Gallo's salary is 22.6 so we need about 3.4 more... we don't have a contract like that so... we probably will have to send Crowder or Exum away for nothing somewhere. Lets say Crowder for pure capspace...somewhere... I think someone will pick him up and might even give up some small compensation for him(similar to the Bradley for Morris deal BOS did when they needed to clear capspace for Hayward).

So we are at about 27M of capspace. We absorb Gallinari into that capspace.

And now we trade future draft compensation+Favors+Exum(27.25M) for Conley(32.5M)... this one should be legal... right?

What we are left with:

PG: Mike Conley, Raul Neto, ???
SG: Donovan Mitchell, Grayson Allen, ???
SF: Joe Ingles, Royce O'Neale, ???
PF: Danilo Gallinari, Georges Niang, ???
C: Rudy Gobert, Tony Bradley, ???

We pretty much gut any depth we have, but the starting lineup looks good. The ??? will have to be filled with the draft picks(23 and 53), room MLE and other vet minimum contracts.
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Utah can create about 35.8m by releasing our capholds, waiving/stretching Korver and the rest of our extraneous player (minus Royce and Niang, of course).
 
TheStormofWar said:
Utah can create about 35.8m by releasing our capholds, waiving/stretching Korver and the rest of our extraneous player (minus Royce and Niang, of course).
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Yes, but I'm trying to get both Gallo and Conley on the Jazz. You will need capspace to absorb Gallo and Favors' contract in order to trade for Conley.
 
I think the simplest path to significant improvement is renouncing everyone, mostly-absorbing Conley (that’s our major asset, matching salaries with vets and whatever is garbage for Memphis) but sending Exum, stretching Korver, then using that ~$15 million to answer the PF question and fill out the roster with whatever remaining cap, room MLE, and/or BAE (you bet your *** I’m gunning for Caruso with that).
 
LoPo said:
The Lakers aren't going to spend $18 million of their $23-27 million in cap space on a bench PF/C.

There are other teams who might do it, but I just don't know who they are if they do exist at all.
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I don't think he would be the backup. Davis doesn't want to play center. Kuzma gets traded or comes in as scoring 6th man. They would have to get some cheap guards though.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
So were the Kings.

Things can change.
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I think the Suns are way above in terms of dysfunctionality, starting from ownership. Still, no reason for a promising player to join them now. Just like it made no sense for big free agents to join the Kings some years ago.
 
Somebody tell me if this line of thinking is way off or not:

Jazz agree to trade Exum, Korver, Bradley, Crowder, and #23 to Memphis for Conley. Trade is agreed to, but isn't finalized until after free agency.

Jazz guarantee Favors, Neto, O'Neale, and Niang. They rennounce Rubio, Thabo, Udoh. Because the above trade hasn't gone through yet, they have approximately $14 million in cap space. They use the rest of this cap space to sign someone like a Niko, etc.

Jazz finalize the trade with Memphis

Because they're now over the cap, the Jazz also can use the $9 Million dollar MLE to get another impact player
 
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