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The official "let's impeach Trump" thread

babe said:
No one should expect Trump to be anything "ideal". We are all by our rights individuals who can be more or less just what we really are, and if you think it through, it should be OK with you that they are.

So much of the anti-Trump stuff is just so insane. Look, Hitler and Mussolini were political extremists. Communists who turned to fascism for convenience, people consumed by ideological crap, with no moral bearings at all. Even Obama said, after meeting Trump, that Trump is not ideological. He has never spent the time of his life imagining there is some "superior" brand of human, he is not at all "racist" nor dedicated to any political agenda of an intellectual concept. I don't care about people's manners all that much, it's just apparent to me that he has no speechwriters and talks off the cuff without much thought before.... speaks from his heart..... he does not hate anyone for skin color or ethnic identity. He is not building a political empire. When he is done with his term(s) he will go back to his private life.

That is all anyone should expect, or imagine, really.

you guys should just look for some alternative candidate you could support who would do no harm to the rest of us humans, as unconcerned about political power as Trump is. Stay away from the dedicated extremists with ideas about how to manage everybody their own way.
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From the article: "The National Education Association and the Mississippi Association of Educators issued a statement condemning the raids. “We are outraged that ICE carried out these raids on the first day of school, causing chaos and separating families,” the statement said. “The trauma these students are enduring is inconceivable, and will have a profound long-term effect.”"

At least one guy gets it though. Can Jordan Barnes please run for office?

"After the ICE raids, many children had to fend for themselves or depend on relatives, neighbors ― and strangers. A private gym owner in the town of Forest donated his space for children to sleep Wednesday night, and was arranging mattresses and donated food for them. “I understand the law and how everything works ... but everybody needs to hold the kids first and foremost in their minds,” gym owner Jordan Barnes told Channel 12 WJTV."
 
colton said:
From the article: "The National Education Association and the Mississippi Association of Educators issued a statement condemning the raids. “We are outraged that ICE carried out these raids on the first day of school, causing chaos and separating families,” the statement said. “The trauma these students are enduring is inconceivable, and will have a profound long-term effect.”"

At least one guy gets it though. Can Jordan Barnes please run for office?

"After the ICE raids, many children had to fend for themselves or depend on relatives, neighbors ― and strangers. A private gym owner in the town of Forest donated his space for children to sleep Wednesday night, and was arranging mattresses and donated food for them. “I understand the law and how everything works ... but everybody needs to hold the kids first and foremost in their minds,” gym owner Jordan Barnes told Channel 12 WJTV."
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I’ve read that potential contributing factor for why this plant was raided was in retaliation to the lawsuit launched by (Hispanic) workers over abuse by management. The fear is that someone in the company notified ICE about the undocumented workers to send their labor force a message. I don’t know how valid this claim is or not. If it does prove to be valid then it shows once again how these immigrants are being exploited.

Now I’m reading that the plant has closed down because they don’t have enough workers. Lol. I’m sure a bunch of (white) workers are going to be climbing over themselves to work for a terrible salary in horrible working conditions to pick out chicken parts. What an exciting career!

Another day in trump’s America.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...ive-companies-targeted-mississippi-ice-raids/
 
colton said:
This is completely nuts.
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The trauma being inflicted on these families, especially the children... is just mind boggling.

It’s almost like trump wants to create domestic terrorists. I understand the need to enforce our borders. But is there seriously no other more humane way of doing it? ICE couldn’t coordinate with child services and other agencies to mitigate the trauma?

Why not raid the owners of this plant instead? Seems to me like that’d be far more effective. Undocumented immigrants wouldn’t be here working if employers didn’t hire them.

If these jobs are so great, why aren’t white people rushing to work at this plant? Weren’t Trumpers the “forgotten” who were being displaced by mean Hispanics? Well, looks like this Mississippi plant will have some openings. I expect a rush for these jobs from the native (white) population.
 
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babe said:
sil, I think I've goaded you about this before, and you are so certain you are firing on all cylinders intellectually I'm sure it's as useless to try again as it is to try with Game.

Looks to me like you would think Trump was terrible if he were in sack cloth and ashes, with tears on his cheeks and saying "It's all my fault".

Yov've lost your bearings in your hate for Trump, like Colton has. Pretty sad, really.

Most people, even grieving parents, will cooperate with the photographer when he says "smile". It has nothing to do with the situation, the context, or with his beliefs or bearings politically.
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Are you serious?! This tweet, that @colton posted, shows a photo taken after the child was brought back to the hospital. Brought back so the Trump's could get this photo op?! What the hell is there to grin about in this photo?! What the hell is wrong with this man? Somebody bring the kid back, I'm in a ****eating grinning mood today!

 
Red said:
Are you serious?! This tweet, that @colton posted, shows a photo taken after the child was brought back to the hospital. Brought back so the Trump's could get this photo op?! What the hell is there to grin about in this photo?! What the hell is wrong with this man? Somebody bring the kid back, I'm in a ****eating grinning mood today!

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Some correction is in order. The photo is obscene, given the circumstances, but the boy's deceased father apparently was a Trump supporter, and the Uncle, the family, wanted this photo to be taken.

https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/595888/
 
Red said:
Some correction is in order. The photo is obscene, given the circumstances, but the boy's deceased father apparently was a Trump supporter, and the Uncle, the family, wanted this photo to be taken.

https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/595888/
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Good acknowledgement. He's still grinning and giving a thumbs up like "hey your parents got murdered (partly because of my rhetoric) but this all makes up for it because I'm so great and I spent some of my time taking this picture with you."
 
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Red said:
Are you serious?! This tweet, that @colton posted, shows a photo taken after the child was brought back to the hospital. Brought back so the Trump's could get this photo op?! What the hell is there to grin about in this photo?! What the hell is wrong with this man? Somebody bring the kid back, I'm in a ****eating grinning mood today!

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The President is at the hospital? He wants to see us, too? Wow. We'll be right there.

They say it was their idea to go back.

Well, anyways, if you read history, or the Bible, you won't find very many bigshots that didn't do a lot of bad along with sometimes a lot more good. People with historical perspective and realistic understanding of the human condition might have some second thoughts before criticizing.

Looks like Trump is going to have Google run a social score on people applying to buy guns from now on. Great. That should fix everything.
 
Colton's beef about Trump's workers is a bit off. I don't know, and I hardly care. If we're going to look at Trump on that issue, I'm pretty sure almost everyone in the news for politics is guilty as well. At least Trump is starting to send the signals....
 
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