When an investigation is underway this is the exact approach. That is what the investigation into substantiated Russian interference was. Since then many have been indicted, prosecuted and convicted. So Sounds like you approve?
Epstein is in Trouble
- Thread starter The Thriller
- Start date
Getting Traded
Banned
Sure, and why would they allow him to have a rope with which to hang himself if he had tried to do so not long before? Not only this, he was an important prisoner with lots of damaging information to very important people. You think they are going to treat him so casually? Use your head and stop being so pig-headed. If you are right, then the people who run the prisons are dumber than you.
He used a rope to hang himself?
Link?
Or are you talking straight out of your ***?
Hotdog
Well-Known Member
Your first sentence did the "its obvious duh"
I dont need specific insight to how it works to know that taking him off suicide watch doesnt make sense.
Epstein: tries killing himself
Prison: you good Epstein?
Epstein: Ya, Im good now
Prison: ok, take him off suicide watch. He told us he is good.
Protocol followed: Check
If you know something provide the evidence. That's where I'm at.
I don't know what happened in that cell. The reason I don't know is because I don't have access to any of the information. That's how reality works.
It was more than a week later. give me info on other cases of suicide watch and how it's handled or stfu.
Getting Traded
Banned
I don't know what he used, but if it were something with which he could hang himself, you think they are going to let him have it, a guy who had previously tried to hang himself? The most important factor here is that he wasn't just an ordinary prisoner, some homeless guy. He had damaging information about Clinton, possibly Trump, an English prince. In fact, he was connected with the CIA in international currency manipulation. This guy was important and you don't treat someone like this with indifference.
And "prison" doesn't do the evaluation, a psychologist does.
Have you been following the actual info or just the propaganda.
Officials have been releasing information. None of what they say has to be true, but the starting point is to take their official statements and demonstrate how what they said is NOT true. None of you even seem to know what the official statements are, you don't care what they are, you're just pushing your bald assumptions as facts.
Have you been following the actual info or just the propaganda.
Officials have been releasing information. None of what they say has to be true, but the starting point is to take their official statements and demonstrate how what they said is NOT true. None of you even seem to know what the official statements are, you don't care what they are, you're just pushing your bald assumptions as facts.
Inasmuch as bureaucracy breeds apathy, so also can bureaucracy need an apt scape goat when **** hits the fan. My guess would those people will find themselves laid off. Or, if you’re into conspiracy, dead.
I don't think so. It is something I absolutely want more information about before I form an opinion. It is highly suspicious.
It's just that I don't go from "I'm pretty confused/suspicious about this point" to "I absolutely know all the facts about this entire situation" like you seem comfortable doing.
Getting Traded
Banned
I don't know all the facts. I'm making logical deductions based on the situation. There are three possibilities:
1. The prison personnel were stupid, ignorant, and incompetent, and as a result he was able to hang himself
2. He was murdered
3. He was rescued by deep-state personnel who created a ruse with a dead body double to prevent Epstein from going to trial leading to revelations that would damage people like Clinton, Trump, and other important persons who had sex with underage individuals.
And by not giving a **** either way I'd be ready to work with whoever to save my own ***.
Again, assumptions, especially ones formed via biased outlooks, don't equal knowledge.
There are many possibilities other than those.
You're not some supreme authority on what is logical. In fact, you're one of the most obviously clueless people on Jazzfanz. That's not saying much, as jazzfanz isn't all that big a website. So There are probably at least a million or so people more clueless than you. But you are in the top 5% of clueless people in the U.S.. I know you don't realize this (because of how ****ing clueless you are) but take my word for it, it's obvious, duh!
Getting Traded
Banned
That may be your opinion. But I believe you're dumb as a piece of granite. So, tell me, what are the other possibilities? The most logical one is number two. Number one and three are possible, as well, but unlikely. And there is no supreme authority on logic. It's simply connecting the dots. If he committed suicide, then it was incompetence and stupidity on the part of the prison that allowed it. If he was murdered, then it was because he had damaging information incriminating very important people. If he was rescued, well, there are scenarios in history in which such things have happened, and there in fact is a lot of evidence that Hitler actually was safely taken to Argentina where he lived out his life. You have some other possible suggestions?
It's my bedtime sweetheart. Let's cuddle some other time. I'm too tired for this right now.
Getting Traded
Banned
You simply have no answers except to call me names. Ad hominem attacks occur when people have no sufficient answers to rebut the other person.
I don’t believe I’ve made any assumptions.
Like you have any real information to prove this comment.
Getting Traded
Banned
Gameface apparently doesn't understand what logic is, or how to be logical. So, because I use logic, I'm clueless. I'd like to know what are the many possibilities. There are only two: one, he is dead (either by suicide or murder), and the other, he is still alive (he was rescued by deep-state operatives).
So far as the possibility that it's the second one, consider the way we have been deceived by the deep state in other situations:
1. The JFK assassination -- Hundreds of books have been written about this and so much disinformation has been introduced and so much information withheld (why are they still withholding information; what are they hiding after 56 years?) that it's difficult to determine exactly what happened. But logic tells you that it wasn't just Oswald and maybe not him at all.
2. 9-11 -- When you understand that skyscrapers implode only through a demolition and the use of thermite with explosives and not by being hit by a plane (experts in skyscraper construction will tell you this), then logic tells you it was an inside job
3. Second Iraq War -- When no evidence of WMDs has ever been found, then the logical assumption is that the U.S. created it as an excuse to start a war with Iraq.
Yet, people refuse to use logic and instead believe illogical statements made by our government which is trying to persuade us to give it our support. As Chomsky said, and I'm sure most people don't consider him clueless, in democracies, governments need the consent of the governed, so they "manufacture consent" to do what they want. I didn't make that up, Chomsky did.
So far as the possibility that it's the second one, consider the way we have been deceived by the deep state in other situations:
1. The JFK assassination -- Hundreds of books have been written about this and so much disinformation has been introduced and so much information withheld (why are they still withholding information; what are they hiding after 56 years?) that it's difficult to determine exactly what happened. But logic tells you that it wasn't just Oswald and maybe not him at all.
2. 9-11 -- When you understand that skyscrapers implode only through a demolition and the use of thermite with explosives and not by being hit by a plane (experts in skyscraper construction will tell you this), then logic tells you it was an inside job
3. Second Iraq War -- When no evidence of WMDs has ever been found, then the logical assumption is that the U.S. created it as an excuse to start a war with Iraq.
Yet, people refuse to use logic and instead believe illogical statements made by our government which is trying to persuade us to give it our support. As Chomsky said, and I'm sure most people don't consider him clueless, in democracies, governments need the consent of the governed, so they "manufacture consent" to do what they want. I didn't make that up, Chomsky did.
Last edited:
Maybe it has and maybe it didn't. Trump is notorious for denying a relationship with some one who gets in trouble or betrays him. Doesn't change the fact he hung out with him. Personally, this Epstein story doesn't surprise me at all. I think any one involved should be held accountable.