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Translation- We're abandoning the Kurds. This is beyond ****ed up and heartbreaking.

The Isis fighters referenced in this statement are currently being held by our Kurdish (I guess former now) allies.

This has all the ingredients for a genocide. Not just allowed to happen by the US, all but sanctioned by it.
 
Don't worry. We still are. :)

Also not forgotten:

Hillary's Emails
Kavvybaby's history of piss pour behavior, and falsehoods made under oath
Gorush getting a nod when Garland wasn't even heard
Biden's history of stupid, ****** behavior
Pizzagate
Mustardgate
Bolling Green Massacre
Sandyhook being a work
Picking sides in Israel
Using emergency funds for the wall, even though the Senate voted it out(just without veto buster power)
Historical Infidelities

There's a lot that's not forgotten. Much of it is still talked about. Just because you hide your head in the sand, doesn't mean everyone else does. Big Media reports on news, and only mentions history.
 
I’m sure the pro Trump morons will ignore this inconvenient story. But it’s relevant given how our foreign policy is directed according to our president’s personal financial needs:

 
Just curious. Why aren't we talking about Russia Collusion anymore?
You mean this collusion?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...0a8bc8-e159-11e9-b199-f638bf2c340f_story.html

"President Trump told two senior Russian officials in a 2017 Oval Office meeting that he was unconcerned about Moscow’s interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election because the United States did the same in other countries, an assertion that prompted alarmed White House officials to limit access to the remarks to an unusually small number of people, according to three former officials with knowledge of the matter."

Basically, he's done so many impeachable things it's hard to keep up.
 
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Literally everything. The earth without humans would be a wonderful place, but it would also be nothing. No written or understood histories, no technology, no art, no philosophy, no science, no religion, no music reaching anywhere near the complexities of human music, very limited use of resources, very limited societies, no space exploration, etc. I cannot deny that humans have and will continue making mistakes, but they also have and will continue accomplishing amazing things. People are awesome. I am a huge fan of humanity and I cannot imagine any argument that would be capable of convincing me otherwise.
The things you mentioned are things for us humans.
Non human creatures don't care about written histories or art or philosophy or whatever.

I was asking how humans have made the Earth a better place for the non humans living on it.

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Why was she a Trump supporter? Was she mostly disconnected from politics and voted for someone not named Hillary? Was she a single issue voter who felt like Trump was her last hope to save her guns, appoint conservative justices, or protect America from the brown horde? Did she get caught up in the whole, “we need a disruption in our government” wave that included both conservatives and liberals? Or what?

I think it was much simpler than that. She was 29 and her first job was working as a medical assistant in a private doctor's office. So she was 19-20 years old when Obamacare rolled out and got subjected to a constant stream of argument that it was ruining her boss' business and complaining from all her coworkers who were dealing with the new billing standards and codes.

I don't think she ever shook the idea that the ACA was bad after that. She didn't know much about the rest of politics, but had a strong opinion about that issue. Like I said, it's worth talking to people to figure out the story.
 
I’m guessing @sirkickyass might have some thoughts about this? What effect does this administration's efforts to blame the 2016 election interference have on the Ukrainian people? Certainly, they don’t like being attacked by a perceived ally like this. Nor do I doubt that Russian disinformation troll farms are missing this opportunity to undermine Ukraine’s young democracy.

So I get that this administration is trying to strong-arm their government into investigating the Bidens. But what does this do to the Ukrainian people? How are their best interests being served by Donald’s short-term political aspirations? Will this undermine American foreign policy long-term?



IMO: the biggest impact on Ukraine from all of this is the loss of the belief that they can count on the United States to support them on their Eastern border. It's not a coincidence that Zelensky agreed to the Steinmeier formula peace plan last week, which will effectively cede control of Lubhansk and Donetsk to Russian separatists in an effort to end the frozen conflict there. But that has the effect of giving Russia a veto over Ukrainian foreign policy going forward. They have now demonstrated, twice, that they can just take land on command.
 
The things you mentioned are things for us humans.
Non human creatures don't care about written histories or art or philosophy or whatever.

I was asking how humans have made the Earth a better place for the non humans living on it.

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The non humans are not intelligent life. In my answer I said that the world would still have beautiful places with no humans on it... but to what end? Every day would be essentially the same as the last and the same as the next. So yeah, the deer and the antelope would play, but then they would live out their lifecycle and then another generation of deer and antelope would play. And on and on, but no real accomplishment other than more of the same. It takes intelligent life to make intelligent accomplishments. Humans and their accomplishments are the reasons that life on earth matters, in my opinion. And if humans were gone, hopefully some other intelligent lifeform would eventually emerge. I'm confident that that species would also make mistakes (as well as accomplishments) just as our species has. Humans are a good thing.
 


Does this admin think this will help things? I think this strategy will backfire. Makes it look like they’re hiding things.

And that’s probably the reason:

 
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If you’re a Trumper, aren’t you angry over Sondland not testifying today? After all, he’s (a) not anonymous and (b) would provide first hand knowledge (not hearsay) on how NOT corrupt this administration has been in Ukraine. Right? If anything, his testimony should clear Trump’s name UNLESS what the whistleblower has said is true. Right?

Then again, I’m not a stable genius whose wisdom is great and unmatched.
 
I meant we may as well relax over impeachment since the outcomes in both the House and Senate are pretty well set to go down along partisan lines. That all should happen sometime this winter and then we can worry for real about the actual election where the outcome is more uncertain. Still, all in all, I’m fairly optimistic about 2020, in part, because I don’t put the blame for 2016 all on voters. We were given two terrible candidates. I expect Warren to be a stronger and less polarizing candidate than Clinton and a choice undecided voters can actually feel positive about voting for rather than agonizing over the lesser of two evils.

You sound pretty certain about Warren winning the nomination. I don’t think she would be the best bet to defeat Trump tbh.
 
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