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The official "let's impeach Trump" thread

fishonjazz said:
No idea what this post means.
Trump has tried to get other countries to provide dirt on his competition. That's my post.
Do you have something to respond to that about?

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Doesn't the sentence "tried to provide dirt" mean, that the accused person is innocent and therefore can just ignore the blame? My point was that it is a pretty bad thing if the voters are so silly that they believe fake evidence i.e believe Russia and China and therefore vote for another candidate. If the jury says that those accusations are false and Trump opponents are honest then why not just say "better luck next time" and laugh at Trump?
 
I'm now about 50% thinking the current allegations will stick and result in a house impeachment. I'm at about 10% on the Senate convicting.
 
colton said:


Makes you wonder if "multiple" means even more than two.
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From that NBC article:

"The first so-called second hand information 'Whistleblower' got my phone conversation almost completely wrong, so now word is they are going to the bench and another 'Whistleblower' is coming in from the Deep State, also with second hand info," Trump tweeted. "Meet with Shifty. Keep them coming!"

An alternate name for Trump's Deep State would be Defenders of the United States Constitution!
 
Have we ever found out why a group of republican senators spend the 4th of July two years ago in Moscow? Sen Ron Johnson was one of them and he just spewed a bunch of nonsense on MTP. It’s weird that we know so little about that trip.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
What sad analysis. Is this really how you see things? I see a country that has done and can continue to do so much positive. I see people who care about their environment and their neighbors. Is everything perfect? No. But it is not horrible by any means, and we deserve good in our lives, not bad.

When I read analysis like JazzGal's I find myself wondering how people on different sides of the political spectrum could possibly ever agree on anything. Their starting points are so dramatically different. Personally, I think the human race is incredible and a massive positive for the earth. I was at a party recently and got into a discussion with a liberal who sees humanity as a terrible stain on the existence of the universe. I can see where these sorts of people are coming from, and I'm in absolute and total disagreement with their conclusions.
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Talk about the aspects of the earth that humans have made better.


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lauriandres said:
Doesn't the sentence "tried to provide dirt" mean, that the accused person is innocent and therefore can just ignore the blame?
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Nope it actually means he is guilty
 
Not a single utah politician defended Mitt Romney? Donald called him a pompous *** and Mike Lee, Chris Stewart, Rob Bishop, and John Curtis (all mormon and republican) remained silent? Gov Herbert has no comment on one of two state senators being called an *** by a reality star who sleeps with pornstars and commits impeachable acts? Seriously???

Wow.

Family values folks family values!

It’s amazing how much hate I’ve seen over the years directed at Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid by Utah pols over the years. Neither of them asked Ukraine to dig up dirt on their opponents. None of them called a Utah pol an ***.

Just amazing
 
fishonjazz said:
Talk about the aspects of the earth that humans have made better.


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Literally everything. The earth without humans would be a wonderful place, but it would also be nothing. No written or understood histories, no technology, no art, no philosophy, no science, no religion, no music reaching anywhere near the complexities of human music, very limited use of resources, very limited societies, no space exploration, etc. I cannot deny that humans have and will continue making mistakes, but they also have and will continue accomplishing amazing things. People are awesome. I am a huge fan of humanity and I cannot imagine any argument that would be capable of convincing me otherwise.
 
Chuck Todd's highly combative interview of Republican Sen. Ron Johnson on Meet the Press this morning.

 
Zombie said:


Cool to see Russia running with this.
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Lmao

This **** is so funny.

The amount of conspiracies and hit jobs on Trump is just staggaring. There are so many you cant even keep track of them. We are just moving from one to the next at a crazy pace. Like 10 different ones a day. The Dems are pulling out all the stops. Throwing everything including the kitchen sink at Trump.

This is going to be the boy cried wolf effect times 100. After like the 50th time a Trump conspiracy turns out to be false, the public is just going to largely ignore anything that is said about him.

Im really surprised that the dems are actually going with this strategy. Its really exposing a lot about them. I never had such negative views of Democrats until all this craziness. I imagine a lot of other swing votes are feeling the same way.

As this article from the Times reports, so many never Trumpers are now on board.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/05/us/politics/never-trumper-republicans.html

Trump 2020 in a landslide. Get the tear gas ready
 
Zombie said:


Of course.
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Well... Cutting down on the corruption in Ukraine has been a top priority for this admin. And by corruption I mean, the corruption of them doing business with not Trump people. Everyone knows that the best way to cut corruption is to commit corruption with the Donald. He has all the best corruption!

Seriously, does this admin do anything ethically? Hell, these guys are making the mafia look like Boy Scouts.
 
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NPC D4617 said:
Lmao

This **** is so funny.

The amount of conspiracies and hit jobs on Trump is just staggaring. There are so many you cant even keep track of them. We are just moving from one to the next at a crazy pace. Like 10 different ones a day. The Dems are pulling out all the stops. Throwing everything including the kitchen sink at Trump.

This is going to be the boy cried wolf effect times 100. After like the 50th time a Trump conspiracy turns out to be false, the public is just going to largely ignore anything that is said about him.

Im really surprised that the dems are actually going with this strategy. Its really exposing a lot about them. I never had such negative views of Democrats until all this craziness. I imagine a lot of other swing votes are feeling the same way.

As this article from the Times reports, so many never Trumpers are now on board.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/05/us/politics/never-trumper-republicans.html

Trump 2020 in a landslide. Get the tear gas ready
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I'm sorry, I'm not seeing where I said anything about a conspiracy of any sort here. This is just the obvious result of a President taking the side of an authoritarian regime, excusing its attack on our closest ally's soil.

Or are you suggesting that the Skripal attack itself is a conspiracy theory?
 
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