JazzyFresh
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Do why did Obama allow it? Answer the damn question...
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One of the most blatant ways Russia interfered, was the one I cited above. Oct 7, 2016 wasn't during the primary, but the general. Russia’s interference was felt throughout the primaries for both parties and the general. Even Ted Cruz was smothered with Russian fake news about having affairs with his staff prior to the Wisconsin primary.
so again, Russian interference was consistent throughout. It’s really impossible to say with confidence that it didn’t swing the election for Trump.
Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Trump won those states by by 10,704, 46,765 and 22,177 votes. Difference of about 80,000. So if 40,000 people were swayed by Putin to vote trump over HRC, his investment paid off.
This is unknowable of course. No one knows what information they consumed was from Putin or not, and even if they knew they would never admit that it may have swayed their vote.
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I do give you credit for your determination to change the subject. If I were you I wouldn’t want to defend trump either. It must be exhausting and you must see that the wheels are off and you are headed for loserville.
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Who are you debating, captain obvious?
JazzyFresh
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New conversation.
Why did Obama allow it?
Why did Obama allow it?
JazzyFresh
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Actually screw that. The origination of Russia meddling has everything to do with this. Why it was allowed is a very very huge equation as to why it happened.
JazzyFresh
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You guys can't answer it. You know as a fact that this all leads to one guy who failed to protect our elections. This was an Obama failure. That is very consistent with the conversation at hand.
Prediction:
The justification for arguments of Tulsi Gabbard as a Russian asset has undermined any progress believed to be made in three years of Trump Russia coverage, at least with regard to impressionable voters (the ones they’re targeting). The choir is unphased, as the high fives show. In essence, doubling down on bad assessments and 2020 will again leave them dumbfounded, and as surprised as the pigeon who met Randy Johnson’s fastball.
But don’t worry; we’ll be able to collude with each other to get four more years of new Trump-Russia theory to cover for why Democrats couldn’t put together a campaign to defeat Trump not once, but twice.
The justification for arguments of Tulsi Gabbard as a Russian asset has undermined any progress believed to be made in three years of Trump Russia coverage, at least with regard to impressionable voters (the ones they’re targeting). The choir is unphased, as the high fives show. In essence, doubling down on bad assessments and 2020 will again leave them dumbfounded, and as surprised as the pigeon who met Randy Johnson’s fastball.
But don’t worry; we’ll be able to collude with each other to get four more years of new Trump-Russia theory to cover for why Democrats couldn’t put together a campaign to defeat Trump not once, but twice.
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One of the issues that no one here is considering is the cross-check scheme created by the Repugs which is concrete evidence of interference and can concretely show influence in the eventual tallies that determined the election. I would have to go back to get the details, but the social media claims are only speculation and not concrete. I still say that using Russians as the bogeyman are diverting attention away from our own fraud created by our own political parties. That is much more damaging to the control over our electorate than Russian interference; that is, our democracy is being destroyed from within. SC decisions like Citizens United and McCarron-McConnell are contributing factors.
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