I saw a quote from Billy Hunter (I am too lazy to look it up). But he said something along the lines of he expects the 2012 season to be lost completely. I have maintained all along that the owner's are very willing to lose an entire season and that they have little incentive to begin another season without some serious concessions by the players. The NFL owners just won their lockout. They got a hard cap, non-guaranteed salaries, and a lower % of money going to the players. The NBA owners are going to hold out for a lot of the same things. Without a hard cap and lower % of income the owner's will sit out the players indefinitly. I always expected a full season lost, and I would not be surprised if the NBA loses more than that.