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Democrats better hope that Trump is impeached because none of their candidates can beat him in a general election. Buttigieg is probably their best chance in an election vs Trump and he doesn't have the needed support to get the nomination.
 
Democrats better hope that Trump is impeached because none of their candidates can beat him in a general election. Buttigieg is probably their best chance in an election vs Trump and he doesn't have the needed support to get the nomination.

I agree with you.
 
He made no efforts to imprison Hillary Clinton, nor to decrease corruption in Washington. So, definitely not 100%.

He never promised throwing her in jail. It was trash talk.

Funny you claim he hasnt tried to decrease corruption. Literally, the Democrats are trying to impeach him because he is trying to weed out corruption.

Which side are you on? You seem pro corruption based on your insistence to ignore corruption.
 
Does everyone get to redefine their candidates promises ex post facto, or is that only you?



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Funny, that is what you point to when talking about unkept promises. As if it is important at all. I could care less personally.

See, you totally misjudged the conservatives. None of then really cared to see her jailed except for a few on the fringe.
 
Funny, that is what you point to when talking about unkept promises. As if it is important at all. I could care less personally.

So, since the campaign promise was not important to you, it did not count as a broken promise?

See, you totally misjudged the conservatives. None of then really cared to see her jailed except for a few on the fringe.

The politicians were never going to do it. I still hear voters complain about it. Someone just today, on this board, was going on about Clinton crookedness.
 
He made no efforts to imprison Hillary Clinton, nor to decrease corruption in Washington. So, definitely not 100%.
I said no such thing as "liberals blah blah blah" I provided numbers to counter your argument and try to make people realize what a substantial number even one trillion is. You're saying we'll save money but you still haven't even broken down the 2.1 trillion we would be in the hole with. I pointed out the things you said would cover it and my quick math made that make no sense. Your more than welcome to break down how cutting the military budget and immigration reform equal even a sliver in 2.1 trillion dollars.

That's no way to talk to majority owner of your ***
 
Democrats better hope that Trump is impeached because none of their candidates can beat him in a general election. Buttigieg is probably their best chance in an election vs Trump and he doesn't have the needed support to get the nomination.
I find that hard to believe. Maybe in places like Utah or the deep South, but most people hate Trump. Look at what happened in VA and KY on election day. People are catching on to this guy's con.
 
Democrats better hope that Trump is impeached because none of their candidates can beat him in a general election. Buttigieg is probably their best chance in an election vs Trump and he doesn't have the needed support to get the nomination.

Huh, i feel like all of them could. Trump is the worst president we ever had, his approval ratings suck and he almost lost to one of the least liked democratic candidates of all time last election before people got to see how ****** he is as president.


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Democrats better hope that Trump is impeached because none of their candidates can beat him in a general election. Buttigieg is probably their best chance in an election vs Trump and he doesn't have the needed support to get the nomination.

Laughable. Especially seeing how the last 3 Novembers have been yewwwgeee wins for Democrats. Even Kentucky is voting for Democrats in state wide elections.

and you recently posted:

Because he hasn't admitted an impeachable offense. And the majority of Americans do not support impeachment, at least not yet anyway. Unless you're eating up polls which put the support for the impeachment inquiry at like 52% and you're saying that 52% is both an accurate number AND that all of that 52% also supports impeachment.

If Trump had admitted an actual impeachable offense and true majority of Americans wanted impeachment the House dems would have held a vote already. They haven't held the vote because they know neither is the case. They are still searching for the smoking gun because they know without it they don't have the support of the people which is HUGE. Not just in removing Trump but in holding the White House after winning in 2020

Your last 2 political posts have just been awful. Stick to sports bud
 
I'm talking about him as a President. I didn't pay attention to his voting record in the Senate. The ACA was a slight re-design of a Republican plan pushed heavily by health insurance companies, the Treasury secretaries and Fed appointees were all Wall-Street-approved, military spending increased, etc. Do you think he was a liberal President, and if so, why?

As he was representing reliably left-voting Illinois, you would expect his votes to be to the left. Considering his main competitors were Clinton, Edwards, Richardson, and Biden, it's not hard to be to the left of that group.
To characterize the ACA as a slight re-design of a Republican plan is completely disingenuous. Nothing similar to it has ever had anything approaching widespread Republican support. If a Republican in a blue state once supported it that makes it a Republican plan to you? Obamacare is a major social program which was strongly opposed by nearly every Republican, and not in the least bit centrist. It was unquestionably a liberal program.
 
Laughable. Especially seeing how the last 3 Novembers have been yewwwgeee wins for Democrats. Even Kentucky is voting for Democrats in state wide elections.

and you recently posted:



Your last 2 political posts have just been awful. Stick to sports bud

The Democrat field needs new blood. A bunch of 80-year-olds are not going to get anyone excited. Mayor Pete seems like a good dude. He's on his game and I think he'd stand up to Trump well. It would be a mistake to run any of the oldies against Trump. Remember, it boils down to being a popularity contest in the end.
 
Breaking News: Michael Bloomberg is entering the race... another 80-year-old. Could become a battle of the NY titans.
 
The Democrat field needs new blood. A bunch of 80-year-olds are not going to get anyone excited. Mayor Pete seems like a good dude. He's on his game and I think he'd stand up to Trump well.

Younger? New blood? Excitement? Look no further my dude, I have the answer! He's a youthful 77 years young and has business experience!


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Younger? New blood? Excitement? Look no further my dude, I have the answer! He's a youthful 77 years young and has business experience!


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The battle of the billionaires. It could get really ugly, then again with Trump that's a guarantee. I don't see Bloomberg getting a big swell of excited support but he might be the guy to get people to finally ditch Trump. He needs to run as a moderate.
 
To characterize the ACA as a slight re-design of a Republican plan is completely disingenuous. Nothing similar to it has ever had anything approaching widespread Republican support.

Back in the early 1990s, individually-mandated health insurance was a Republican alternative to what the Clintons were trying to do.

If a Republican in a blue state once supported it that makes it a Republican plan to you?

If it was endorsed by the Republican Speaker of the House and many of his colleagues, how can it not be a Republican plan?

Obamacare is a major social program which was strongly opposed by nearly every Republican, and not in the least bit centrist. It was unquestionably a liberal program.

So, plans designed to benefit major industries and the wealthy are now liberal plans. That would make tax cuts and defense spending liberal ideas. Welcome to being a liberal.
 
To characterize the ACA as a slight re-design of a Republican plan is completely disingenuous. Nothing similar to it has ever had anything approaching widespread Republican support. If a Republican in a blue state once supported it that makes it a Republican plan to you? Obamacare is a major social program which was strongly opposed by nearly every Republican, and not in the least bit centrist. It was unquestionably a liberal program.

Except... the HEART program had 20 co sponsors? Including Orrin Hatch, Bob Dole, and Chuck Grassley. There were only two democratic sponsors, 18 Republican, yet it's memorialized as "Hillarycare" in many places around the web?

That was ACA-lite. It's comfortably accurate to say it's revisionist history to distance Republicans from what they sponsored.
 
The Democrat field needs new blood. A bunch of 80-year-olds are not going to get anyone excited. Mayor Pete seems like a good dude. He's on his game and I think he'd stand up to Trump well. It would be a mistake to run any of the oldies against Trump. Remember, it boils down to being a popularity contest in the end.
The fact that it's a popularity contest seems to indicate that damn near anyone would beat trump
 
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