The We Should Try Juwan Morgan as a Backup Center Thread

[Handlogten's Heros]

Pretty self explanatory... I'm okay with how TB has played, but I'm not sure there is a ton of upside and I don't think he's the guy you want on the floor in the playoffs.

The teams in the western conference that we have to go through don't really have traditional backup centers and honestly there isn't one of them that I'd feel good about Tony Bradley guarding.

Lakers - They will likely have AD in their non-Dwight playoff minutes... not much you can do there other than keep Rudy out there on him.

Clippers - Harrell... not big, fast, energetic, pick and roll dude. Tony on him? no thanks.

Rockets - Like go with Tucker as their 5... again Tony? no thanks.

Denver - Plumlee is solid and a more traditional big.. pick and roll finisher.

Dallas - Kleber/Powell... both mobile dudes... Pick and roll and pick and pop guys.

IDK that Tony can hurt any of these guys on the offensive glass... currently I think we'd get smacked by those dudes if Tony is on the floor defensively...

So - We should try Juwan Morgan as a backup center. I think he'd be better guarding at the rim (averaged 2 blocks and 2 steals in g league)… I think he'd be much better guarding on the perimeter. On offense I think he could catch and finish as well as TB in the pick and roll, but he can also shoot a little. I think we lose a little on the offensive glass but that might be it really.

If Morgan develops his shot or shows the ability to take one or two dribbles and make a decision then it adds some serious wrinkles to the offense... I think the defense would overall be better.

His garbage time minutes have not been great... he's very passive on offense, but he's been the spacer in the corner... not the screener. Would love to see him as a screener and see him as the roll man.

It may not be the answer, but I don't think there is a lot to lose by giving it a try. Theoretically I see some nice upside.

 

[Truth]

Tucker is a playoff 5? Seriously?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Tucker is a playoff 5? Seriously?

Do you watch the playoffs... the lineup even has a name... called the Tuck Wagon lineup... educate yo self!

 

[NUMBERICA]

Tucker is a playoff 5? Seriously?

Seriously.

 

[Truth]

It's hard for me to watch the Rockets for more than a few minutes before wanting to wretch at the ridiculous favoritism the refs give them. That said, everyone on the Jazz should be practicing the Harden cheating moves. If those are the way the games are going to be called now, you've got to take advantage like everyone else.

 

[Jazz4ever]

I think our offense has been mostly getting what they want shot wise. We need Bradley's rebounding. Hate giving up second chance points.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

In G League he operated as the center on offense and defense. I think he's a better pick and roll player than Tony... can shoot up top... can pass and handle. On defense he's disruptive and has great hands... Don't think he'd be a constant presence like Rudy or a bigger backup option, but he will get to the right spots quicker.

 

[NUMBERICA]

I’m in favor of trying him out and seeing if it’s viable, yes. From what I’ve seen in the NBA, Morgan doesn’t look ready but this is about the playoffs and I agree that Tony is headed for a buzzsaw in the postseason.

I’m really hoping something breaks for us on the market in the coming months but we need to be prepared for if it doesn’t.

In either case, the Jazz’s options behind Rudy are either obviously not anything resembling a legit big man or a wildly inexperienced player and that ain’t good.

 

[infection]

Ekpe is averaging 19/12 with 4.5 blocks in China right now. Why not him? Imagine him coming off the bench for 19/12. All teh chips.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Ekpe is averaging 19/12 in China right now. Why not him? Imagine him coming off the bench for 19/12. All teh chips.

His season ends after the signing deadline to be eligible to play in the NBA playoffs. So scratch him off the list.

 

[infection]

His season ends after the signing deadline to be eligible to play in the NBA playoffs. So scratch him off the list.

Or DL could take all that money we've made from selling second rounders and just buy the Beijing Ducks and release him from his contract.

 

[yamers]

G league and NBA level are totally different.

There is a reason TB is the backup. The coaching staff knows who gives them the best chance. We can only arm chair GM and talk a lot of hypothetical **** but we are not in the gym with these guys everyday.

And you answered your own question, “his garbage time minutes have not been great” so lets throw him into a important game and pray he does well.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Ekpe is averaging 19/12 with 4.5 blocks in China right now. Why not him? Imagine him coming off the bench for 19/12. All teh chips.

Jimmer averaged like 75 pts a game in China... I do like Ekpe doe.

Go watch Morgan's G League highlights... ask yourself if Ed or Tony can do what he does in the pick and roll or dribble hand off game. I think he could be a switchy option that provides some space. Even if we got a more established vet like Bogut I could see Juwan being an option in certain matchups as the playoffs move along.

 

[NUMBERICA]

G league and NBA level are totally different.

There is a reason TB is the backup. The coaching staff knows who gives them the best chance. We can only arm chair GM and talk a lot of hypothetical **** but we are not in the gym with these guys everyday.

And you answered your own question, “his garbage time minutes have not been great” so lets throw him into a important game and pray he does well.

There are places between “garbage time” and “minutes in an important game” that could be explored.

I don’t think there are great options on the roster but I think TB is a dead-end in the playoffs.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Jimmer averaged like 75 pts a game in China... I do like Ekpe doe.

Go watch Morgan's G League highlights... ask yourself if Ed or Tony can do what he does in the pick and roll or dribble hand off game. I think he could be a switchy option that provides some space. Even if we got a more established vet like Bogut I could see Juwan being an option in certain matchups as the playoffs move along.

This is basically what I’m hoping for (in the realm of possibility); get a vet off the scrap-heap AND develop a rangier player in the meantime.

 

[yamers]

There are places between “garbage time” and “minutes in an important game” that could be explored.

I don’t think there are great options on the roster but I think TB is a dead-end in the playoffs.

Best chance to win is TB. Period. Like I said juwan is far from
Ready.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Best chance to win is TB. Period. Like I said juwan is far from
Ready.

Then we’re cooked if we don’t make a move on the market.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I’m in favor of trying him out and seeing if it’s viable, yes. From what I’ve seen in the NBA, Morgan doesn’t look ready but this is about the playoffs and I agree that Tony is headed for a buzzsaw in the postseason.

I’m really hoping something breaks for us on the market in the coming months but we need to be prepared for if it doesn’t.

In either case, the Jazz’s options behind Rudy are either obviously not anything resembling a legit big man or a wildly inexperienced player and that ain’t good.

G league and NBA level are totally different.

There is a reason TB is the backup. The coaching staff knows who gives them the best chance. We can only arm chair GM and talk a lot of hypothetical **** but we are not in the gym with these guys everyday.

And you answered your own question, “his garbage time minutes have not been great” so lets throw him into a important game and pray he does well.

In his garbage time minutes he has been stationed in the corner and not playing up top in the pick and roll like he was in the G League. He looked really solid defensively in his only non-garbage time minutes.

I am aware G League is a different game... TB never put up numbers as good as Morgan.

Coaching staffs play guys for a variety of reasons and miss on guys all the time... GSW found out about Draymond when David Lee got hurt... Tucker bounced around Europe and the NBA for a long time... Hell this year we played Ed and Jeff Green ahead of Niang and Bradley... they were in practice... they were less effective than the guys that replaced them. These guys don't full 5 on 5 practice as much as you think.

If you think about the things we want in a backup center I think Morgan has as good a chance as any to provide.

 

[yamers]

Then we’re cooked if we don’t make a move on the market.

Who do u get? TB hasnt been all that terrible when called upon.

 

[yamers]

In his garbage time minutes he has been stationed in the corner and not playing up top in the pick and roll like he was in the G League. He looked really solid defensively in his only non-garbage time minutes.

I am aware G League is a different game... TB never put up numbers as good as Morgan.

Coaching staffs play guys for a variety of reasons and miss on guys all the time... GSW found out about Draymond when David Lee got hurt... Tucker bounced around Europe and the NBA for a long time... Hell this year we played Ed and Jeff Green ahead of Niang and Bradley... they were in practice... they were less effective than the guys that replaced them. These guys don't full 5 on 5 practice as much as you think.

If you think about the things we want in a backup center I think Morgan has as good a chance as any to provide.

Gsw found out about dray way before lee got hurt. Cmon man. You dont JUST find out, you see **** in practice. I trust in snyder and the coaching staff a lot more than armchair GMs on forums.