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silesian said:
Success of Liberal democracy, capitalism and free markets is an empirical fact. Read some Stephen Pinker, he has lots of charts and graphs and data.

But it is always a good move when you are on the losing side of an argument to dismiss the other person as religious, so debate points to you.
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I don't recall anyone disputing the successes of liberal democracy, capitalism, nor the free markets; I certainly don't. Stephen Pinker is not a reliable source, but that doesn't change the first sentence.

If your taking a disagreement with one particular example (the restaurant industry), and portraying that as dissing your entire belief system in capitalism, how can you get more fundamentalist than that?
 
silesian said:
Efficiency is accomplishing something with the least waste of resources (time, effort, materials, capital).

So, for example, there is marketing efficiency is making the best use of marketing personnel and spend. If you place ads in the wrong publication, this means poor marketing efficiency (few new customers per marketing hours and dollars spent).

There is purchasing efficiency which uses as few buyer-hours to get the best supplies for the lower costs.

Efficiency is applied to every commercial dimension, not just food waste, which is how you have narrowly discussed it.
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Which of these do you claim is critical to restaurant success? Because I guarantee you, whatever you choose, there are multitudes of exceptions to it.

silesian said:
And while you compartmentalize efficiency and effectiveness as a completely independent parameters, they are in fact intertwined
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They are sometimes intertwined, and sometimes not.

silesian said:
Hope that helps.
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It does help point out that you are not defending your original claim.
 
silesian said:
I suggest you read Enlightenment Now: The Case for Reason, Science, Humanism, and Progress
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You mean, you're not recommending Atlas Shrugged? You're really trusting in Pinker a little too much.

silesian said:
The poor are overall much better overall better off under capitalism than in all other systems. That is an empirical fact.
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We don't have unregulated capitalism in this country. You do get unregulated capitalism in countries where the government collapses. How were the poor doing in Somalia in 2006?

silesian said:
In the mean time, I'll eat at private restaurants and you eat in state run restaurants and we'll both be happy. smile.
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How about I eat in state-regulated restaurants and you eat from people who are not regulated by the state. Except don't, I rather you not get sick.
 
silesian said:
I guess to the same degree that a brain surgeon and a dermatologist is just doctors. And a Chemical and Electrical Engineer are just engineers. And a Cessna pilot and a F 16 pilots are just pilots.
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What would you think of a brain surgeon that never operated on a brain?
 
silesian said:
Since precisely no one is saying that efficiency should be their top priority, I guess you could go argue with an imaginary friend self if that floats your boat.
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If efficiency is not the top priority, than you acknowledge they can be both inefficient and successful?
 
silesian said:
Since you believe that efficiency is a good thing that leads to profitable and successful companies, may I assume that you also believe that inefficiency is not a good thing and leads to unprofitable and unsuccessful companies?
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I agree that inefficiency is worse than efficiency. I disagree that inefficiency leads to unprofitable and unsuccessful companies. There are many paths to being profitable and successful; efficiency is one of them. Many successful companies are very inefficient.
 
Was thinking about this today and not sure where to post it so thought maybe here.

The general idea of forgiving student loan debt isn’t a bad one but what about the people who paid their debt off? Are we giving them refund checks?
 
White Chocolate said:
Was thinking about this today and not sure where to post it so thought maybe here.

The general idea of forgiving student loan debt isn’t a bad one but what about the people who paid their debt off? Are we giving them refund checks?
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No

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White Chocolate said:
Was thinking about this today and not sure where to post it so thought maybe here.

The general idea of forgiving student loan debt isn’t a bad one but what about the people who paid their debt off? Are we giving them refund checks?
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No but they will get a sturdy high 5 and a slap on the *** for their good deed. Life ain't fair.
 
White Chocolate said:
Was thinking about this today and not sure where to post it so thought maybe here.

The general idea of forgiving student loan debt isn’t a bad one but what about the people who paid their debt off? Are we giving them refund checks?
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Thinkin about this a little hard mang. But let's open it up and say yes. How do you scale education costs, exactly?
 
One Brow said:
We don't have unregulated capitalism in this country. You do get unregulated capitalism in countries where the government collapses. How were the poor doing in Somalia in 2006?
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Go find someone advocating for unregulated capitalism and argue with them
 
White Chocolate said:
Was thinking about this today and not sure where to post it so thought maybe here.

The general idea of forgiving student loan debt isn’t a bad one but what about the people who paid their debt off? Are we giving them refund checks?
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I'm sure there were a bunch of people that were angry about not getting Social Security for the entire time they would have been eligible if the law had passed sooner. But you can't retroactively enforce all laws and provide all benefits. A good idea has to start somewhere, and it shouldn't be held up because people who don't get the advantage are angry about it. I'm not saying that this is a good idea, because I haven't done the research.
 
silesian said:
Go find someone advocating for unregulated capitalism and argue with them
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You're the one who objected to my saying unregulated capitalism was bad for the poor and told me to read Pinker. Perhaps you were a little heated, and missed the word "unregulated". It happens.
 
One Brow said:
You're the one who objected to my saying unregulated capitalism was bad for the poor and told me to read Pinker. Perhaps you were a little heated, and missed the word "unregulated". It happens.
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Yes i missed that, but because lack of attention to detail, haha.
 
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