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No, she did not. That was your persecution complex reading into what she said.
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No, she did not. That was your persecution complex reading into what she said.
JazzyFresh
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"your solution, Jazzy? To not help people in the hopes that they all die and then the problem is solved?"
Yeah she did. Your inability to read a damn sentence is astonishing. Please stay out of the conversation if your going to be a liar.
I didn't say you, personally. But your solution is not an overnight practical solution because the resources are not there. It will be a slow process. In the meantime, what do you want to do with people who are not in a position to take care of themselves? Where do you want to put them?
Red
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I believe someone has some misconceptions regarding SNAP...
https://www.cbpp.org/research/food-...-participants-work-but-often-in-unstable-jobs
JazzyFresh
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It was an insinuation. It wasn't meant to be taken out of context either way(mine or yours) I know.
To answer your question, more than just shoving them out on the street, opening clinics where it's ok to shoot up, and leaving them out on a cirb. That's what is happening now and that is the worst thing one can do imo. We won't agree but I 100% feel doing so enables people to not seek help and only pushes them further into the huge seas of darkness.
That's been my problem since we started this conversation. The wrongness of what these cities are doing nothing more.
Now answer my question every single one of you has dodged please. If doing what theses cities are doing is working, why are the homeless numbers sky rocketing? What is the current solution solving?
JazzyFresh
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Not really at all by reading that. I've already said it has some good uses but it is also has some terrible uses. I admitted earlier I was an addict and work first hand in retail and the misconceptions these articles use I see first hand daily. Hell one of my ex roommates back in the day would fill the fridge full of luxury foods biweekly. Another friend milked it for years. They even talked me into it and I felt too guilty so I got off after a month.
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If I were unable to tell the difference between a statement and a rhetorical question, would you think my inability to read was more astonishing or less astonishing than you claimed?
Behavior like this is why people think you are sensitive. I mean, you *could* have asked yourself why I read here a completely different way than you did. Instead, you went on the attack. Why do you think that is?
You uh, like... didn't even attempt to answer the question. So it's not your turn to ask questions yet. It's still your turn to answer.
JazzyFresh
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And as usual you didn't add jack.. go away
I'll be right here.
JazzyFresh
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My answer was rhetorically the same moron. Pot meet kettle.
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Problems contributing to homelessness, to different degrees in different areas:
1) Fewer well-paying jobs for those with a high-school education (or less)
2) Lack of affordable housing
3) Inadequate mental health facilities
4) Migration due to weather and other circumstances
5) Incarceration rates
I agree the current solutions don't work. We need to do better, which is different from doing less.
JazzyFresh
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Adding nothing but drunken diatribe. Be my guest.
Your actual answer was that you'd do "more" than what's being done now.
That's literally what you said right after you wrote "To answer your question..."
More what?
ANSWER THE QUESTION!!!
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My point, which you may or may not have missed, was that "To not help people in the hopes that they all die and then the problem is solved?" was a rhetorical question, and not aimed at you in any way.
I don't need your invitation.
But for the record, I work nights. I woke up today at 4pm, it's my day off. I haven't had any alcoholic beverages. I just finished my coffee.
So, try again.
JazzyFresh
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1)so these people are capable of working
2) it's California, Washington, and NY lol of course nothing is affordable
3) agree
4)why is New York at 80,000+? You been there during winter?
5) I'm all for criminal justice reform. I applaud Trump for his actions but it's nowhere near enough.
JazzyFresh
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My point was that she asked
"solution, Jazzy? To not help people l"
She wasn't being literal and neither was I. You made waaaaaay to much out of such a simple thing dude. It wasn't meant to be taken literal it was made to make a point. She asked if my solution was "to not help people" and I was saying "no, that is not my solution". It was really no big deal and I have no clue why it's even a discussion.
Red
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If Trump cared about the success of the American people, he would act as if he was at least trying to be a president for all Americans. Even when he talks as if that's who he is, he often sounds stilted and uncomfortable speaking from the heart. It does not come natural to him, which does indeed say a lot about the man. And some of us have had the eyes to see that clearly, for years.
He would actually have received at least a slight uptick in approval among voters who did not vote for him in 2016 if he actually showed that he cared more about all Americans than he does about Donald Trump. But he hasn't. And he never has. At least half the country would have stayed in their seats. Not out of partisanship, but out of dislike of a miserable human being who enjoys cruelty and it's applications. He certainly puts the bully in the bully pulpit, and like no other in my lifetime.
And @Zombie is right, the opposition sitting it out is par for the course. A trip down memory lane....
Further, I believe for Trump, and for many of his followers, cruelty has always been the point. Trump hates the people his core supporters hate. This has long been obvious to me, and the fact so many miss this fundamental truth, and actually think it's great to have a bully(and most bullies at heart are cowardly) as a president says something rather ugly about the United States.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/the-cruelty-is-the-point/572104/
Your actual solution was to do "more" that is the extent of what you said you would do.
Holy ****.