The Ringer: The Nuggets and Jazz Are Ready to Make Their Cases As Contenders

[latin jazz]

Excerpt from the article, that basically echoes other respected NBA analysts (Lowe, Arnovitz, O'Connor, etc)

The team’s growing comfort with Conley may be its best option. Utah has worked Conley back into the starting lineup and shown caution in managing his minutes for just this reason; there’s almost no sustainable way forward without his significant involvement. Utah’s starters have fared excellently both with Conley and without, a credit to both Joe Ingles (whose facilitation is key under any context) and Royce O’Neale (who assumed Conley’s starting spot and slid to the wing).

Full article here:

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2020/2/11/21132898/nba-championship-west-utah-jazz-denver-nuggets

 

[LogGrad98]

Good article

 

[latin jazz]

Good article

Yeah. But I'm a bit more concerned than the author in our ability to defend the perimeter. I'm still thinking about Gordon's 50point performance, Ingram's career high and Jokic/Murray pick n roll.

 

[infection]

Yeah. But I'm a bit more concerned than the author in our ability to defend the perimeter. I'm still thinking about Gordon's 50point performance, Ingram's career high and Jokic/Murray pick n roll.

Iman Shumpert.

 

[NAOS]

Iman Shumpert.

Lmao

 

[NAOS]

I’m still dealing with the surprise that we didn’t do anything at the deadline. Another switchable wing and/or a non-TB big woulda been great.

 

[LogGrad98]

I’m still dealing with the surprise that we didn’t do anything at the deadline. Another switchable wing and/or a non-TB big woulda been great.

I wasn't surprised in the least, but I was thoroughly disappointed.

 

[Bodhi]

I wasn't surprised in the least, but I was thoroughly disappointed.

This

 

[NUMBERICA]

Iman Shumpert.

Who is one of the only players in the league to beef with Mitchell.

 

[NUMBERICA]

I’m still dealing with the surprise that we didn’t do anything at the deadline. Another switchable wing and/or a non-TB big woulda been great.

The ramifications of keeping Davis are pretty big on their own. The roster spot he takes up alone is a real issue.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

Yeah. But I'm a bit more concerned than the author in our ability to defend the perimeter. I'm still thinking about Gordon's 50point performance, Ingram's career high and Jokic/Murray pick n roll.

I thought Conley’s perimeter defense was very good vs the rockets.

 

[sgjazzfan]

I’m still dealing with the surprise that we didn’t do anything at the deadline. Another switchable wing and/or a non-TB big woulda been great.

How? Jazz have nothing to trade of value. They are keeping Clarkson, Bojan, DM, Gobert. Ingles and O'Neale can't be traded. Nobody is going to give anything significant for Conleys contract. Nobody wants Ed Davis' Contract. Bradley, Niang, Oni, Brantley, NWG, Tucker, etc... Jazz aren't getting anything from them. They can't trade a 1st round pick until about 2025.

Anyone who thought the Jazz could just go out and get a good wing defender for nothing. It doesn't work like that.

 

[sgjazzfan]

The ramifications of keeping Davis are pretty big on their own. The roster spot he takes up alone is a real issue.

hopefully they can move his contract for someone in the offseason, or at the trade deadline next year. If not, they probably buy him out sometime next year. Nobody was going to take on his contract though.

 

[NAOS]

How? Jazz have nothing to trade of value. They are keeping Clarkson, Bojan, DM, Gobert. Ingles and O'Neale can't be traded. Nobody is going to give anything significant for Conleys contract. Nobody wants Ed Davis' Contract. Bradley, Niang, Oni, Brantley, NWG, Tucker, etc... Jazz aren't getting anything from them. They can't trade a 1st round pick until about 2025.

Anyone who thought the Jazz could just go out and get a good wing defender for nothing. It doesn't work like that.

There were several dudes acquired for 2nds, brough. Cmon now.

 

[sgjazzfan]

There were several dudes acquired for 2nds, brough. Cmon now.

How were the Jazz going to match the contracts... Brough.... Cmon now....

 

[NUMBERICA]

There were several dudes acquired for 2nds, brough. Cmon now.

I cannot be convinced that there wasn’t at least one move that would’ve substantially improved this season’s team, next season’s options, or both.

 

[NAOS]

How were the Jazz going to match the contracts... Brough.... Cmon now....

With one of their outgoing players who matched the contract of the incoming player.

 

[sgjazzfan]

With one of their outgoing players who matched the contract of the incoming player.

OK, what player was coming in that made the Jazz better, and who did the Jazz have they were trading to match that contract, Genius?

 

[NUMBERICA]

OK, what player was coming in that made the Jazz better, and who did the Jazz have they were trading to match that contract, Genius?

There’s a thread about this.

The Jazz have - I believe - all of their own 2nd rounders. Two got them Clarkson. There are teams that will have cap space that can’t reasonably hope to get to 90% of the cap that would do well to rent it and pick up an asset (Like a 2nd rounder). Furthermore, there are teams that may want Davis because he was good for them in previous stints.

If there’s anything I’ve learned watching the trade market in the NBA, it’s that there is almost always a suitor for the right price.

Also, TB is a decent player with some shine on paper.

 

[sgjazzfan]

There’s a thread about this.

So you can't give me one example off the top of your head? I'm not going to sift through a thread with 100+ pages talking about a bunch of crap for this. Jazz made their big trade in Clarkson, and they didn't have much ammo after that. They can't just go to teams and ask them to trade good assets for nothing because they ask nicely. Teams aren't going to take on Ed Davis 1.5 years out of the goodness of their hearts.