The Ringer: The Nuggets and Jazz Are Ready to Make Their Cases As Contenders

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  1. latin jazz

    latin jazz Well-Known Member

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    Excerpt from the article, that basically echoes other respected NBA analysts (Lowe, Arnovitz, O'Connor, etc)

    Full article here:

    https://www.theringer.com/nba/2020/2/11/21132898/nba-championship-west-utah-jazz-denver-nuggets
     
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  2. LogGrad98

    LogGrad98 Well-Known Member Contributor

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    Good article
     
  3. latin jazz

    latin jazz Well-Known Member

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    Yeah. But I'm a bit more concerned than the author in our ability to defend the perimeter. I'm still thinking about Gordon's 50point performance, Ingram's career high and Jokic/Murray pick n roll.
     
  4. infection

    infection Well-Known Member Staff Member 2019 Award Winner 2018 Award Winner

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    Iman Shumpert.
     
  5. NAOS

    NAOS Well-Known Member

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    Lmao
     
  6. NAOS

    NAOS Well-Known Member

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    I’m still dealing with the surprise that we didn’t do anything at the deadline. Another switchable wing and/or a non-TB big woulda been great.
     
  7. LogGrad98

    LogGrad98 Well-Known Member Contributor

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    I wasn't surprised in the least, but I was thoroughly disappointed.
     
  8. Bodhi

    Bodhi Well-Known Member

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    This
     
  9. NUMBERICA

    NUMBERICA Well-Known Member

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    Who is one of the only players in the league to beef with Mitchell.
     
  10. NUMBERICA

    NUMBERICA Well-Known Member

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    The ramifications of keeping Davis are pretty big on their own. The roster spot he takes up alone is a real issue.
     
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  11. Thee jazz fan

    Thee jazz fan Well-Known Member

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    I thought Conley’s perimeter defense was very good vs the rockets.
     
  12. sgjazzfan

    sgjazzfan Well-Known Member

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    How? Jazz have nothing to trade of value. They are keeping Clarkson, Bojan, DM, Gobert. Ingles and O'Neale can't be traded. Nobody is going to give anything significant for Conleys contract. Nobody wants Ed Davis' Contract. Bradley, Niang, Oni, Brantley, NWG, Tucker, etc... Jazz aren't getting anything from them. They can't trade a 1st round pick until about 2025.

    Anyone who thought the Jazz could just go out and get a good wing defender for nothing. It doesn't work like that.
     
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  13. sgjazzfan

    sgjazzfan Well-Known Member

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    hopefully they can move his contract for someone in the offseason, or at the trade deadline next year. If not, they probably buy him out sometime next year. Nobody was going to take on his contract though.
     
  14. NAOS

    NAOS Well-Known Member

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    There were several dudes acquired for 2nds, brough. Cmon now.
     
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  15. sgjazzfan

    sgjazzfan Well-Known Member

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    How were the Jazz going to match the contracts... Brough.... Cmon now....
     
  16. NUMBERICA

    NUMBERICA Well-Known Member

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    I cannot be convinced that there wasn’t at least one move that would’ve substantially improved this season’s team, next season’s options, or both.
     
  17. NAOS

    NAOS Well-Known Member

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    With one of their outgoing players who matched the contract of the incoming player.
     
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  18. sgjazzfan

    sgjazzfan Well-Known Member

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    OK, what player was coming in that made the Jazz better, and who did the Jazz have they were trading to match that contract, Genius?
     
  19. NUMBERICA

    NUMBERICA Well-Known Member

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    There’s a thread about this.

    The Jazz have - I believe - all of their own 2nd rounders. Two got them Clarkson. There are teams that will have cap space that can’t reasonably hope to get to 90% of the cap that would do well to rent it and pick up an asset (Like a 2nd rounder). Furthermore, there are teams that may want Davis because he was good for them in previous stints.

    If there’s anything I’ve learned watching the trade market in the NBA, it’s that there is almost always a suitor for the right price.

    Also, TB is a decent player with some shine on paper.
     
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  20. sgjazzfan

    sgjazzfan Well-Known Member

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    So you can't give me one example off the top of your head? I'm not going to sift through a thread with 100+ pages talking about a bunch of crap for this. Jazz made their big trade in Clarkson, and they didn't have much ammo after that. They can't just go to teams and ask them to trade good assets for nothing because they ask nicely. Teams aren't going to take on Ed Davis 1.5 years out of the goodness of their hearts.
     

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