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One Brow said:
A two-for-one: it's a lie Politifact is left-leaning, and a lie that Obamacare was responsible for people's policies being cancelled. People had insurance policies cancelled long before Obama became President, and it continued afterward. So, that's lies #3 and #5 for you.
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That's moving the goal post. He lied. He straight up lied and everyone and their family know it.
 
JazzyFresh said:
That's moving the goal post. He lied. He straight up lied and everyone and their family know it.
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What goal post? Was Obama supposed to force insurance companies to keep offering specific policies? Would you support that level of government intervention?
 
One Brow said:
What goal post? Was Obama supposed to force insurance companies to keep offering specific policies? Would you support that level of government intervention?
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No, but he lied that you can keep your plan if you wanted. I wanted to keep my plan that I had years before Obama but I couldn't. I voted for the lying sack of ****.
 
JazzyFresh said:
No you said he target conservative groups. YOur own words

"Yes, it was a lie that is was conservative groups"
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As the article said, "conservative and other groups", not "conservative groups".

My actual words were, "It targeted new political groups, most of which were conservative at that time."

The target was new political groups. It's a lie that the target was conservative groups.
 
JazzyFresh said:
I disagree. I think Trump cares far more for the American public than a president who sat on his *** while an embassy was under attack than lied to you and me about it being caused by a video tape. Or you know, people like me who worked in natural resources who he didn't give a single **** about. Or those of us who were laid off due to his EPA regulations, thrown on the streets, then forced to buy an insurance plan or get fined. He certainly cared when he targeted conservative groups through the IRS. Spied on an elected officials campaign. Lying to us that we can keep our insurance plans. You know lying about something as important as our health shows he cares. Yeah, he sure did a lot for people like me...

But you know. Prison reform for minorities is vile according to you guys. Signing a bill that allocates money to failing black only colleges is vile according to you guys. Wanting to protect Americans first before illegal immigrants is vile. A booming economy that benefits every single American is vile. Low unemployment rates for minorities and women is just disgusting to you guys. We know how much you all must love human trafficking because you call his combating it vile. Strong military and giving funds to the VA is just terrible. Letting people like me off of Obamacare and actually allowing me to choose my doctor is just so evil. Getting things like the USMCA done, sheer hate. 6 in 10 Americans(usatoday) saying they are better off right now pisses you off even though it's one of the highest in recent memory. Standing behind Iranians while they protest. Standing behind Hong Kong as they protest.

But yeah Obama cares. He did so much for the black community. He didn't **** all over republicans every second he could. It was great and awesome when cities burned under his watch, all while he supported a group that chanted how much they wanted to kill police.

With all due respect spare me.
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Cool rant. I will spare you. But I do hope you might venture to read Wikipedia once in awhile. I will grant you that Obama had his failings especially when it came to foreign policy but if you don`t think Trump is a nefarious dude of a degree higher than Obama I`m not sure I can take you seriously. You are allowed to like him I suppose. People seem to have their reasons...

Just off the top of my head...he failed to condemn white supremacists, separated refugee children from their parents and put them in cages,and ordered a Muslim travel ban.(ICBW but wasnt that an executive order?) Freshest in my mind, and I`m sure you`ll beat your chest at this one, assassinated soleimani and put the Iranians on a hair trigger that resulted in the death of 176 people on Flight 752.
He`s a bad dude my dude.
 
JazzyFresh said:
No, but he lied that you can keep your plan if you wanted. I wanted to keep my plan that I had years before Obama but I couldn't. I voted for the lying sack of ****.
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I always understood exactly what he meant, that he wouldn't force insurance companies to drop policies.
 
JazzyFresh said:
Lol the FBI is spying on others on a daily basis? No... They...are...not.....
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How delightfully naive. The Federal Government has data warehouses they use to gather all the routine spying they do daily, and have been since the Patriot Act.

Well, I've gotten my fix for the night. Thanks.
 
AverageJoe said:
Cool rant. I will spare you. But I do hope you might venture to read Wikipedia once in awhile. I will grant you that Obama had his failings especially when it came to foreign policy but if you don`t think Trump is a nefarious dude of a degree higher than Obama I`m not sure I can take you seriously. You are allowed to like him I suppose. People seem to have their reasons...

Just off the top of my head...he failed to condemn white supremacists, separated refugee children from their parents and put them in cages,and ordered a Muslim travel ban.(ICBW but wasnt that an executive order?) Freshest in my mind, and I`m sure you`ll beat your chest at this one, assassinated soleimani and put the Iranians on a hair trigger that resulted in the death of 176 people on Flight 752.
He`s a bad dude my dude.
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You mean the cages built by the Obama administration?

ANd there ya go blaming Trump on Iran blowing up a civilian plane. Wow that's pretty gross. Crazy how much you all love one of the worst terrorist in the world. It's pretty ****ing gross.
 
One Brow said:
How delightfully naive. The Federal Government has data warehouses they use to gather all the routine spying they do daily, and have been since the Patriot Act.

Well, I've gotten my fix for the night. Thanks.
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So why did they apologize?

What did they mean by this?

Wray’s apology comes as a result of a FISA court looking into the wrongful surveillance of Trump advisor Carter Page. In a statement to the FISA court, Wray writes that the FBI’s behavior surveilling the Trump campaign was “unacceptable and unrepresentative of the FBI as an institution,” and that “the FBI deeply regrets the errors and omissions identified by” the Inspector General —
 
Edit: You are posting too fast for me, Jazzyfresh, referring to post before last.

Point one: Sure but that event didn`t happen under obama`s watch did it.

Point two: the cause and effect was direct. He didnt think about the ramifications of what he was doing and people lost their lives because of it. Im done talking to you, yur a dolt.
 
The Obama administration, not the Trump administration, built the cages that hold many immigrant children at the U.S.-Mexico border.

Pictures of children behind chain-link fencing were captured at a site in McAllen, Texas, that had been converted from a warehouse to an immigrant-detention facility in 2014. Social media users who defended Trump’s immigration policies also shared a 2014 photograph of Obama’s Homeland Security Secretary, Jeh Johnson, touring a facility in Nogales, Arizona, in 2014, in which the fencing could be seen surrounding migrants there as well. That picture was taken during a spike in the number of unaccompanied children fleeing violence in Central American countries.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-build-cages-immigrants/
 
AverageJoe said:
Point one: Sure but that event didn`t happen under obama`s watch did it.

Point two: the cause and effect was direct. He didnt think about the ramifications of what he was doing and people lost their lives because of it. Im done talking to you, yur a dolt.
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Obama gave Iran hundreds of millions in the heat of night in which his own Press Secretary admitted would go to terrorism. Should we blame him too?

Earnest: "Certainly Possible" That $400 Million Cash Payment To Iran Was Used For "Nefarious Activities"

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...o_iran_was_used_for_nefarious_activities.html
 
AverageJoe said:
Cool rant. I will spare you. But I do hope you might venture to read Wikipedia once in awhile. I will grant you that Obama had his failings especially when it came to foreign policy but if you don`t think Trump is a nefarious dude of a degree higher than Obama I`m not sure I can take you seriously. You are allowed to like him I suppose. People seem to have their reasons...

Just off the top of my head...he failed to condemn white supremacists, separated refugee children from their parents and put them in cages,and ordered a Muslim travel ban.(ICBW but wasnt that an executive order?) Freshest in my mind, and I`m sure you`ll beat your chest at this one, assassinated soleimani and put the Iranians on a hair trigger that resulted in the death of 176 people on Flight 752.
He`s a bad dude my dude.
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Those are just a few layers of the gigantic onion that Trump is

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K, I've done enough tonight. Funny thing, nobody has said a word about things like Criminal Justice Reform, Anti Human trafficking, or Trump signing bills that restores funds to all black failing colleges. I understand why you want to sweep that under the rug.
 
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