Is the lockout going to end soon?

[gomretat]

Am I the only one that hates the stickied threads at the top of the page? I'm sorry but I don't want to jump into a converation that already has 23 pages. People will jump all over me if I bring up a point that was discussed on page 14...

It gets worse if you decide to start a new thread on the same subject!

Amen. Long sticky threads are not worth wading through. And FWIW, I don't think the lockout is ending. I am bettting no season this year.

 

[Mission Accomplished]

Today there is an article that Fisher is going to skip going to Vegas to go to the labor talks.
https://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba...ing-las-vegas-league-nba-meetings-source-says

I think the biggest problem NBA players are going to face: is that if they don't seem to fight for their league like the NFL players did than they risk falling down to NHL levels of fandom. Because there are already a lot of fans that believe that these professional athletes are not giving their all.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Today there is an article that Fisher is going to skip going to Vegas to go to the labor talks.
https://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba...ing-las-vegas-league-nba-meetings-source-says

I think the biggest problem NBA players are going to face: is that if they don't seem to fight for their league like the NFL players did than they risk falling down to NHL levels of fandom. Because there are already a lot of fans that believe that these professional athletes are not giving their all.

Doubtful. I for one am not less interested in watching Favors,Millsap,Jefferson,etc. just because they aren't dressed in suits and ties talking to rich white people about things they probably don't understand.

 

[gomretat]

Biggest problem is the economics of the NBA are way out of whack. Huge concessions needed for the league as currently constructed to stay viable.

 

[akirac73]

Hell, why not just make one giant Kanter/Turkey thread? We sure don't want the board getting cluttered.

During the pre-draft days, when every other thread was about a certain BYU player, this site really could've used a 2,000 page "Jimmer" thread as well.

 

[Mission Accomplished]

Well, you don't want it clustered but if you look at the lockout poll they are now talking about shaving bears. If threads get to long there is a tendency to get off subject.

I mean that if players in the NBA don't seem to have the same passion for their league as NFL players it is going to hurt them. This isn't talking about showing up to meetings. But, there has to be a clear sense of players wanting the NBA to succeed for the sake of the NBA's future.

 

[carolinajazz]

NEW YORK – The start of the NBA season was thrown into doubt Tuesday after players and owners made no progress at a key labor meeting, with no further talks scheduled.

Union executive director Billy Hunter says players were prepared to make a "significant" financial move, but found owners unwilling to budge off their positions.

EXCELLENT!!!

 

[NUMBERICA]

NEW YORK – The start of the NBA season was thrown into doubt Tuesday after players and owners made no progress at a key labor meeting, with no further talks scheduled.

Union executive director Billy Hunter says players were prepared to make a "significant" financial move, but found owners unwilling to budge off their positions.

I read this somewhere else... where was it??? Oh yeah, the other thread where the same exact discussion is taking place.

But I guess some people like sitting at the kid's table.

 

[GVC]

I think the biggest problem NBA players are going to face: is that if they don't seem to fight for their league like the NFL players did than they risk falling down to NHL levels of fandom.

What?

1. NHL teams draw more fans than NBA teams.

2. Despite poor TV deals, NHL revenues continue to grow, and NHL players make more as a percentage of revenue than NBA owners are insisting their players make as a result of the current labor negotiations.

3. If the NBA season is cancelled, the NHL will gladly swoop in and take all that TV revenue. The NHL is currently a healthier league than the NBA, and will likely supplant the NBA as the #3 pro sports league if the NBA season is cancelled.

4. meh.

 

[GVC]

Biggest problem is the economics of the NBA are way out of whack. Huge concessions needed for the league as currently constructed to stay viable.

Does not compute. The other American pro sports league, including the NHL and their horrid TV deals, are able to stay perfectly viable. Yes, concessions have to be made, but nothing even close to what the owners are demanding. The NBA is run as poorly as Isiah Thomas's CBA. Laughably bad.

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

What?

1. NHL teams draw more fans than NBA teams.

2. Despite poor TV deals, NHL revenues continue to grow, and NHL players make more as a percentage of revenue than NBA owners are insisting their players make as a result of the current labor negotiations.

3. If the NBA season is cancelled, the NHL will gladly swoop in and take all that TV revenue. The NHL is currently a healthier league than the NBA, and will likely supplant the NBA as the #3 pro sports league if the NBA season is cancelled.

4. meh.

Fandom isn't synonymous for attendance. The NBA makes more money than the NHL. There's a reason for that.

 

[Gameface]

Does not compute. The other American pro sports league, including the NHL and their horrid TV deals, are able to stay perfectly viable. Yes, concessions have to be made, but nothing even close to what the owners are demanding. The NBA is run as poorly as Isiah Thomas's CBA. Laughably bad.

While the NBA might have a much bigger market and much more revenue that doesn't mean they are structured anything like the NHL. I've seen a ton more NBA promotions, merchandise, ads, etc., than I have for the NHL. It seems like you're not taking overhead into account.