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I'm sure the answer to those on high is force projection across the Pacific.

I could see some sort of real voting representation in the House for Guam/CNMI/Virgin (I think that's all the populated territories right?). Perhaps some sort of presidential voting too. That probably requires expansion of the House as they are quite quite small population wise. Full statehood seems out of the question, I can't see current states accepting them as equals (and I agree, an island of 50k people as the equal to California sounds ridiculous). I'm not sure about the Virgin Islands, but I know Guam/CNMI have historically voted/worked towards closer relations with the US. They're probably fully aware that as relatively tiny island nations they're going to wind up 'territories' to some world power one way or another.
If the islands were full of white people I'm certain it wouldn't be a problem.
 
How pathetic is this?



@colton did you see this?

So Donald’s re-election message is:

Donald hires morons
Donald nominates bad judges

So he deserves 4 more years.



I feel like we are so close to agreeing with something. The issue is Biden might be more worthless and stupid than Trump is. I would just not vote before I voted for the Donald but it's not like Biden givens anyone a sense of security or hope.
 
@Gameface got me looking at real estate in Guam earlier today. Looks nice. Cuisine looks pretty damn good. Saw an article from last summer that crime was really up there though, according to the author, in large part because of what sounded like a ****** legal system.
So I was there in 2005 so things could have changed a lot, but the place is a complete ********. There is one main street where there are a lot of nice hotels, restaurants, high end shopping, etc. then it's like one big trailer park outside of that. Guam is a jumping off point to explore the Mariana Trench, so that one little strip serves as the tourist spot for them. It has about one afternoon's worth of stuff to do.
 
I find that... doubtful... Extremely extremely doubtful.
I mean, it's not that much more absurd than Wyoming having the same representation in the Senate as California or New York. Maybe I'm just more cynical about how quickly conservatives would jump to add a few more senate seats to their party.
 
I mean, it's not that much more absurd than Wyoming having the same representation in the Senate as California or New York. Maybe I'm just more cynical about how quickly conservatives would jump to add a few more senate seats to their party.

Maybe so, and if I were re-drawing the lines I certainly wouldn't divide the US up like it is, but I would be fairly surprised if we admit any more tiny states without first having massive changes to our governmental system (essentially the abolition of the Senate).
 
Remember how people got all upset because the email lady said something about deplorables?



I can’t wait to have a president who’s just a decent human being.
 
I feel like we are so close to agreeing with something. The issue is Biden might be more worthless and stupid than Trump is. I would just not vote before I voted for the Donald but it's not like Biden givens anyone a sense of security or hope.
We have enough of their respective track records to easily conclude that this is not the case. Like, ****ing eeeeeeasily. Open your eyes, dude.

I’m not saying that Biden is a genius, but holy **** man, you (and people like you) have talked yourselves into a weird corner if you actually believe this ****.
 
I'm going way out on a limb.

I'm calling it now.

Trump steps down before the election.

Just want to be on record.
 
@Gameface

We can even make the bet food. I'll order curbside pickup dinner for you at a restaurant of your choosing if you win. You order for me from a restaurant of my choosing. We'll set a limit on cost I guess.
 
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