Thread for responding to lies spread by JazzyFresh

[One Brow]

@Red remember when you ignorantly told me there's no proof of mail in voting fraud even though I provided numerous examples?

There's still no proof. Not a single fraudulent vote was cast. You just provided proof the system is safe.

I keep hearing how wrong it is for Republicans to nominate a SCOTUS(it's not

It's just obvious hypocrisy, compared to what they said in 2016. So, it's only wrong if you expect Republicans to have principles, instead of being bent on power at all costs.

... but I have yet to really hear an articulate reason from the sexist woman hating Democrats outside of her stance on abortion as to why she's so terrible.

So far, she has said everything correctly and done everything correctly, including affirming over and over that she needs to keep her religious views out of the courtroom. I agree it's just people reacting from fear.

Roe vs Wade is not being overturned.

How do you know that?

And why won't sexist peddi Biden

Why do you keep trying to make pedophilia a normal and public event? What's your interest in that?

and co admit that they will stack the court?

Many Senate Democrats have said outright they will pack the court. Biden prefers to say it shouldn't come to that. I think he still believes he can work with Republicans.

Party of cowards that can't even address you face to face.

While we are on the topic of addressing face-to-face, I should thank you for not responding to me anymore. It makes doing this much less repetitious.

 

[One Brow]

He(and Biden)literally were briefed by John Brennan that Hillary was colluding with Christopher Steele, who was colluding with a suspected Russian Agent for fake Russian propaganda and he helped her.

Clinton hired Steele, this was not hidden, and much of the Steele dossier has been verified.

This is from his own FBIs handwritten admission and Mueller notes. Obama then proceeded to help Hillary by using his modern day KGB to lie to a court to get an illegal FISA warrant to spy on the Trump campaign.

How does getting a secret, hidden wire tap help win an election? Lay out that process for me, keeping in mind Obama refused to go public with this information before the election.

This is 100% fact. There was absolutely no collusion. There is absolutely nothing illegal about a president asking for some cokehead to be investigated or looked into.

So, now you agreed there was nothing wrong with Obama's wire tap? Make up your mind.

Fake *** republican spewing alt left propaganda. You didn't say a word when Democrats were trying to impeach Trump over a game of phone tag,

I said plenty, including that he should have been impeached for obstruction (Trump was not charged with phone tag).

you fake *** republican actually started a thread to impeach him over absolutely nothing. We true Americans denounce your tyrannical lying bs. You are alt left

The impeachment was from the Democrats, not the Republicans. You feeling OK?

Webster-
secret agreement or cooperation especially for an illegal or deceitful purpose acting in collusion with the enemy.

Hillary Clinton's campaign paid Christopher Steele money for dirt on Trump. This is fact.

Exactly. Not secret, not cooperation, not illegal, not deceitful. It was a business transaction.

By Muellers own report he stated this information was Russian Propaganda.

Most of it verified, some of it unverified.

We now know the person who Steele got this propaganda from was a long suspected Russian spy.

Of course. Who else would you get Russian intelligence from? Did you really think there were no spies involved?

We also know by John Brennan's notes that Hillary was planning this a long time ago and that Obama and Biden were briefed.

Yes, Obama and Biden were likely briefed on the public hiring of Steele by the Clinton campaign.

They allowed it and Obama's KGB even lied to spy on the Trump campaign.

How were they supposed to stop Clinton from making a business transaction? As for the "lied to spy", there were improperly filled out documents by lower-level FBI agents, but Obama/Biden were not involved in that.

There was an "agreement" for a "deceitful purpose" "colluding" with a Russian spy.

There was a public business transaction for partially verified information.

 

[One Brow]

For the idiots

Please go explain that to the white supremacists, who all seem to think that Trump supports them.

Him being in charge of the military yet we're in fewer conflicts, .

What's a conflict we are no longer in? Can you name 1?

making peace deals,

Deal, singular, and after tearing up another peace deal, and then trying to make the other party keep its terms when we threw ours away.

and no new wars.

That is a good thing. Trump does seem to be anti-war.

 

[One Brow]

We when you constantly stick up for each I'm just being brutally honest.

Well, you're not telling the truth. I suppose you could be repeating honest lies. As for "brutal", you are far too cartoonish to be that. It's like saying Boris Badenov was brutal.

Notice how all the violence the terrorist attacks you Democrats were committing

Were fictional and are fictional.

just stopped once it became evident in the polls that true Americans don't like you being terrorist?

Nothing in the polls stopped the protests, primarily because people are still protesting. 51 were arrested in Minneapolis just last night.

Just something I noticed. Wonder who was funding this?

Anger over years of injustice, seasoned with frustration at the covid19 problems.

 

[One Brow]

And the majority of anti-Trumpers are peddi terrorist.

Why are you so interested in making pedophilia seem like a common thing? Why do you gain by normalizing it?

I would change my mind if they weren't constantly looting burning trying to overthrow an elected official, and sniffing innocent girls.

The looting isn't being done by Democrats. It is true that Biden is creepy.

See I can play your childish bigoted games too.

Since you're the originator of the childish bigotry on here, it's not a surprise.

Lol how is electorial college Republican?

I favors Republicans by offering more voting power to Republicans, who are better represented in the small, rural states.

Im seeing how at least one of the Gretchen kidnappers were anti-Trumpers.

Anti-government =/= anti-Trump.

Anarchist? Sounds like the Antifa terrorist

The vast majority of antifa (lower case, since there is nor formal organization) are neither anarchist nor terrorists.

you guys love and adore

I understand why they exist and why they act the way they do.

@MVP almost word for word what you just said. You sounded exactly like him.

"Trump is not your friend, dude,” Caserta says, with an anarchist flag hanging behind him. “It amazes me that people actually, like, believe that when he’s shown over and over and over again that he’s a tyrant. Every single person that works for government is your enemy, dude.”

Doesn't sound anything like what MVP said.

You basically just copy and pasted a terrorist word for word earlier ...

A flat lie.

You trying to win arguments when I just beat you using that argument won't work with me.

You don't engage in arguments, so they can't be won by you, either. You engage in lies and repeated disproven points.

Be yourself. I understand original thought is non-existent for you and your ilk...

Coming from the person repeating Republican propaganda over and over, this is self-satire.

Just was reading how Terrorist Democrats were dogging Trump about cancelling the debate. Trump comes out and says they should do it anyway without moderaters ...

That way, Trump can just yell every time Biden tries to talk, and there will be no one to rein him in.

... now the party of cowards aren't responding anymore.

The Republicans have stopped responding?

Trump offers solutions to have a debate ...

Allowing Trump to cheat is the type of solution you love, I'm sure.

... you Democrat cowards run and hide.

Not allowing someone to cheat is not hiding.

We really want such cowards running the country?

We already a coward running the country, President Bone Spurs.

 

[One Brow]

He's one of you. An anti-Trumper anarchist Antifa member.

He's not an antifa (which should not be capitalized, because it's not an organization), and most antifa are not anarchists.

Now do what you guys do and call this guy your hero now.

He's not anything like my heroes.

He even wanted to kill cops like you @The Thriller

TheThriller has never supported killing police.

This is 100% what Thriller has been doing in this thread. Crazy

A lie, and frankly, slander.

 

[babe]

It was two posters at most. Though, that's not much different from saying all you Trump supporters are Nazis, because some are. So, I suppose you don't mind being called a Nazi after all.

word abuse diminishes meaningful discussions.

NAZI is best used in direct reference to Hitler's political supporters, which few are today. I believe, but won't try to prove on evidence, that NAZI symbols and rhetoric today are appropriated falsely by people whose "job" it is to raise the issue, In terms of advanced political strategists, it is a ploy to evoke public divisions on any useful line of controversy, and build up provocative agents on both sides of the issue. Using this theory, the same political plan would be likely building up both sides of this......

fake Nazis, and fake "antifa" players.

I don't think Trump would know about that possibility. He doesn't think much before he talks, and is being exploited for that weakness. What I see in his remarks is that he wants to cool down the provocative issues and try to be nice to people. That is his political ideology, if any.



Also didn't happen, not that it would matter to you.

Any reference positive about Antifa can reasonably be considered calling for violence against, or killing, cops. You should remember the "Pigs in a blanket, Fry 'em like bacon chant. Why was it you went AWOL during those riots????

I consider Antifa to be an elaborate planned movement, designed to pretend to be locally originated and to disavow and make impossible to trace to the origin.

I think it is organized, and designed to suck i n a lot of dupes, ignorant innocents who don't realize their role.

It might be part of a larger scheme of agitation, with green, yellow, orange and red elements, all orchestrated towards the designed effect. I don't mean necessarily "green" as "environmental", but as peaceful and well-mannered. Yellow contingents might play a slightly more aggressive role, and orange still more but all these below the level of provocation or action that could lead to arrest. The red contingent is the violent perps who do the crime, and often get released by democrat officials.

Remember 2018 how Soros and others focused on electing DA s of the radical extreme to some cities, which have now been the location of these provocations?

That suggests a long-range plan to work on racism as the explosive powder keg to bring in such extreme provocations as we've seen. Obama and Soros are of the kind of strategic planning capability for things like this.

 

[Gameface]

I consider Antifa to be an elaborate planned movement, designed to pretend to be locally originated and to disavow and make impossible to trace to the origin.

I think it is organized, and designed to suck i n a lot of dupes, ignorant innocents who don't realize their role.

It might be part of a larger scheme of agitation, with green, yellow, orange and red elements, all orchestrated towards the designed effect. I don't mean necessarily "green" as "environmental", but as peaceful and well-mannered. Yellow contingents might play a slightly more aggressive role, and orange still more but all these below the level of provocation or action that could lead to arrest. The red contingent is the violent perps who do the crime, and often get released by democrat officials.

Remember 2018 how Soros and others focused on electing DA s of the radical extreme to some cities, which have now been the location of these provocations?

That suggests a long-range plan to work on racism as the explosive powder keg to bring in such extreme provocations as we've seen. Obama and Soros are of the kind of strategic planning capability for things like this.

Needed a good laugh. Thanks babe.

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[fishonjazz]

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Rantings of a lunatic

 

[babe]

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Got it.

You go ahead and pretend to be the idiot.

Like Biden saying "The day after I'm elected, I'll pack the Court with totally political wonks who'll rule my way",.

Well, you don't have "your way" or your ideas any more than Biden does. You're another brick in the wall, so to speak. You think nothing, and everything about you is to prove your usefulness, like any fool ever did, to "The Cause".

So, you have no better explanation for Antifa, you can't refute my speculation with any facts, even facts known to insiders who might actually know where the money comes from, or who the leading organizers are.

You were perhaps the first person in here who pushed Antifa as being a "good" anti-Fascist organization.

I see some commonalities between Antifa and Black Lives Matter. With Black Lives Matter, I believe there is actually Chinese money coming in, from the very intensely coordinated Chinese inner circles, which makes it literally indistinguishable, in herms of ownership, from the ordinary communist Chinese Red Army front.

There are similar, if not so deeply flowing, ties to our mainstream media and the Democrataic Party.. That would make the whole Russia collusion hoax a giant distraction from the main event now subverting American sovereignty in politics.

I don't know what difference that makes, really, considering the way things really work in the New World Order. We had a David Rockefeller say Mao "did a good job." We had a Ford Foundation line of influence running into China, so much so that in Chinese higher echelons, the Buick is the elite preferred sort of limo. We have the Chinese money compromising American National sports leagues to the extent they are now literally pawns in the Chinese push for pre-eminence, aided by institutional American support from Ford and other foundations, and the CFR, whose publications have recently been warning that Trump's negotiations and political positions are dangerous to prosperity..... and peace.

Throughout the Stalin era in Russia we had American financial interests propping up the dictator, even the New York Times doing coverups for Stalin's most brutal and deadly programs, including starving the Ukranians in the 1930s. We also had US business interests from Ford and Rockefeller wings building up Hitler in the 1930s, and all the elite University guru types talking in glowing terms about Germany's progress then.

Putin is sidelined in this current geopolitical strategy, and he is aware of that fact, building connections where he can. I won't be surprised to see China make military advances into Russian territory during a Biden administration. The only thing that would prevent that is Russia buying off Biden with billions of dollars directly into his personal accounts. And that would likely anger Xi.

So, in my opinion, if you elect the Xi/Biden ticket..... and I'm being perfectly serious here...... there will be major new wars breaking out, including a Chinese invasion of Siberia. It could go nuclear.

China is the number one aggressor nation on the planet. We turned a blind eye to Tibet, and now are being perfectly indifferent to concentration camps and the most pervasive human rights violations in history under Xi. And our Dem party is beholden to Xi.

People like you, Gameface, who have such strong enthusiasm for "The Cause", are very comproble to the intelligentsia, the intellectuals, the organizers who set up the Bolshevik Revolution. Once in power, though, Lenin looked over his shoulder, and feared what they could do to him. Lenin chose not to be controlled by these idealists who surely would soon become his critics, and he rounded them all up, and locked them up in the Lubyanka. They were the first wave of the Gulag. They were the first ones to be locked up by the government they created.

This is a fair warning to the whole gang here in JFC. You don't know what you're doing, and you can't control the results. And the results will come down most heavily on you first. Well, once the redneck rubes who idly fantasize about Constitutional government are eliminated.

 

[LogGrad98]

Got it.

You go ahead and pretend to be the idiot.

Like Biden saying "The day after I'm elected, I'll pack the Court with totally political wonks who'll rule my way",.

Well, you don't have "your way" or your ideas any more than Biden does. You're another brick in the wall, so to speak. You think nothing, and everything about you is to prove your usefulness, like any fool ever did, to "The Cause".

So, you have no better explanation for Antifa, you can't refute my speculation with any facts, even facts known to insiders who might actually know where the money comes from, or who the leading organizers are.

You were perhaps the first person in here who pushed Antifa as being a "good" anti-Fascist organization.

I see some commonalities between Antifa and Black Lives Matter. With Black Lives Matter, I believe there is actually Chinese money coming in, from the very intensely coordinated Chinese inner circles, which makes it literally indistinguishable, in herms of ownership, from the ordinary communist Chinese Red Army front.

There are similar, if not so deeply flowing, ties to our mainstream media and the Democrataic Party.. That would make the whole Russia collusion hoax a giant distraction from the main event now subverting American sovereignty in politics.

I don't know what difference that makes, really, considering the way things really work in the New World Order. We had a David Rockefeller say Mao "did a good job." We had a Ford Foundation line of influence running into China, so much so that in Chinese higher echelons, the Buick is the elite preferred sort of limo. We have the Chinese money compromising American National sports leagues to the extent they are now literally pawns in the Chinese push for pre-eminence, aided by institutional American support from Ford and other foundations, and the CFR, whose publications have recently been warning that Trump's negotiations and political positions are dangerous to prosperity..... and peace.

Throughout the Stalin era in Russia we had American financial interests propping up the dictator, even the New York Times doing coverups for Stalin's most brutal and deadly programs, including starving the Ukranians in the 1930s. We also had US business interests from Ford and Rockefeller wings building up Hitler in the 1930s, and all the elite University guru types talking in glowing terms about Germany's progress then.

Putin is sidelined in this current geopolitical strategy, and he is aware of that fact, building connections where he can. I won't be surprised to see China make military advances into Russian territory during a Biden administration. The only thing that would prevent that is Russia buying off Biden with billions of dollars directly into his personal accounts. And that would likely anger Xi.

So, in my opinion, if you elect the Xi/Biden ticket..... and I'm being perfectly serious here...... there will be major new wars breaking out, including a Chinese invasion of Siberia. It could go nuclear.

China is the number one aggressor nation on the planet. We turned a blind eye to Tibet, and now are being perfectly indifferent to concentration camps and the most pervasive human rights violations in history under Xi. And our Dem party is beholden to Xi.

People like you, Gameface, who have such strong enthusiasm for "The Cause", are very comproble to the intelligentsia, the intellectuals, the organizers who set up the Bolshevik Revolution. Once in power, though, Lenin looked over his shoulder, and feared what they could do to him. Lenin chose not to be controlled by these idealists who surely would soon become his critics, and he rounded them all up, and locked them up in the Lubyanka. They were the first wave of the Gulag. They were the first ones to be locked up by the government they created.

This is a fair warning to the whole gang here in JFC. You don't know what you're doing, and you can't control the results. And the results will come down most heavily on you first. Well, once the redneck rubes who idly fantasize about Constitutional government are eliminated.

What president hasn't tried to pack the court with their lackeys? Name one that hasn't.

 

[babe]

What president hasn't tried to pack the court with their lackeys? Name one that hasn't.

Judge appointments don't get classified as R or D. They have known views, but the label is not applied formally.

Here's a list of general appointments crossing party lines:

List of United States political appointments across party lines - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I think a closer look will in many instances bear out the club rule about the CFR. The CFR has thousands of members, drawn historically until very recently by nomination for their expertise or prominence in some field of leadership. Today, in the bush league units at least, you can just pay the dues and sign up.

I believe some CFR Presidents have nominated CFR judges nominally allegiant to the other party, but such examples really prove your point more accurately than most people could understand.

Pres. Roosevelt (FDR) did the most blatant attempt I have heard of. Even the Democrats' didn't back him.

The formal polite pretension has always been a great show of deceiving everybody, including themselves, that the Supreme Court is a third branch of the Government that will be above the fray in political wrangling and referee both the legislature and Presidency when they need it. Calls balls and strikes on the laws, and fouls and outta bounds on the President.

In our lifetimes the pretense has worn thin with political pressure for the courts to enact laws or declare administrative policies that neither the legislature nor the President really wants to take responsibility for in the public eye.

In this context, the whole idea of representative government has gone by the wayside and we have won a nine-headed dictatorial monster capable of the most insane rulings, expansively documented with incredible stretches on precedents and abstract unfounded declarations presumably with the authority of God.

I have heard some disturbing rulings or opinions handed out by whats-er-name which trend toward statist absolute authority. I don't think Trump's other picks have been very good either.

But still she seems a better choice than an outright ideological progressive, a marxist, or a crude pirate looking for the best price the market will bear.

The idea of a God capable of making final effective judgments trends towards hobbling the worst impulses, and I'm glad we will have one judge with some echo of a conscience.

Overall, the idea of packing the court with simple political activists pushing their cause creates some fear in reasoning folks. And fans the blazes of the intellectually unbalanced political activists whose cause is going to be promoted.

That is a formula for destroying the inertial restraints on governance run amok.

And it won't save the world from overpopulation, climate change environmental ruin, resource depletion, extinction, , or fascism.

 

[fishonjazz]

What president hasn't tried to pack the court with their lackeys? Name one that hasn't.

You ask him to name one president. He answers with a long winded rant lol

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[Zombie]

So, in my opinion, if you elect the Xi/Biden ticket..... and I'm being perfectly serious here...... there will be major new wars breaking out, including a Chinese invasion of Siberia. It could go nuclear.

This is hilarious even by your high standards lmao

 

[babe]

What president hasn't tried to pack the court with their lackeys? Name one that hasn't.

Few presidents have actually looked that crass while nominating SCOTUS picks. The Dems today however are really getting it all wrong.

They are violating the basic tenets of the Progressive strategy...... gradualism...... because they are in the mental state of panic. Not a pandemic sort of panic, a peculiar
panic of the sort all liars experience when they are publicly exposed and have no ready response. They really don't know how to deal with this moment in time.

Gradualism is based on the premise that the world is OK as it is, for now. But for good reason we need to move things this-a-way, and because most people aren't going to accept our long-term plan today, we'll make it today's plan, broken into little pieces and just keep adding on. " One step today, maybe another next week. But the world isn't going to end if we don't get it all done right now."

If the long term plan keeps changing along the way, fine. We keep moving on towards better times ahead.

In the kind of panic that the Dems or progressives seem to have now, they think the world will end if they lose this election. The ice caps will melt, the environment will rot, people will die in the streets gassed by CO2..... which indeed would be the result if all our CO2 stores in nature were released at once. People will fry in the heat, the world will burn. Amy Conan Barrett will single-handedly overpopulate the world.

The kind of thinking going on inside Dem heads is pathetic.

The fact is, the "Progressive Era" is at an epoch-end. In the coming years, political activism will founder in a world too complex for that kind of simplification. No intellectual, no elite think tank set, will be able to give us pat answers or simple directions. technology will deliver a kind of complexity that cannot be managed. It will just happen. It will be a future people want, not a future people are forced to accept. Too many choices to control.

No AI system will be able to manage it.

The fact is no President has ever successfully packed the US Supreme Court. A pick or two, when there was an opening. Every pick has been someone who never followed up on what was expected by the President, nor by the confirming Senate. They have been more independent than that, not to say they have not been essentially political hacks of a a superior class, trying to remake the world as they thought it ought to be in some sense.

RBG was not that kind of ideologue. She loved a lot of liberal causes and really wanted things to turn out her way. But she knew she could not expect the next pick to love all those same things, or think the way she did.

When a political party crassly undertakes to pack the courts with a lower class of intellectuals who really are just partisan hacks, the net effect will be the loss of the human rights that grew out of the Magna Carta and the US Constitution, and we will be having government like what China has, forever, dynastic autocracy and no actual human rights, no room for individual success or competition in real markets.

In fact, even if Biden does pack the courts, it is human nature that anybody with power will ultimately exercise it. And likely, Biden will still find himself governed in some sense by whatever number of judges we have trying to demonstrate some independence, giving pushback to the program somehow.

But even so it would be a long way back to having a government fundamentally accountable to the people.

Look at the World Court, or other national courts. A few years ago we had administratively-oriented judges looking across national boundaries for good ways to manage their issues, their cases, the whole mess of stuff on their plates. Even in those more liberal and non-Constitutional courts, even in China, there is a growing sense of resistance to the imperatives of globalism. Courts will continue this and turn more to the side of people rather than their managers, where ever they can. In places like China, it will have to be a non-threatening relaxation of authoritarian imperatives. But it is, and will continue, happening.

 

[babe]

You ask him to make one president. He answers with a long winded rant lol

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The short answer is this.

There have been zero appointments that served the purpose of packing the court. A lot of muted efforts, a few flagrant efforts maybe.

Log is right in the sense that every President ever making an appointment has had some general ideas or purposes he wanted that appointment to serve. But he is wrong that it ever worked in a consistent, long-term service to the President's wish.

However, the kind of thing Dems today are on the verge of doing is really very crass, very transparent, and very very stupid. The Court will have to work hard to regain public credibility. Those packed judges will go crazy trying to look independent after they are packed in.

No reason to panic, really,

Even Amy Conan Barrett will not rule that abortions are violations of human rights intolerable in any State. She will maybe rule that it's not a Federal issue specified in the US Constitution, and likely 50 states will then set up some sort of State law. We will not go back to the coat hangers, sewage-filled alley shops where the deed is unregulated butcher shop horror. Women will find ways. Almost every state will allow it in the first trimester or for medical emergencies, which will mean in practical terms almost any woman can get an abortion somewhere in her own county. The laws locally will reflect some differences but overall the fact is, the laws will come out being what people need, what people want even.

I just don't think people anywhere will make life that damn stupid.

 

[babe]

Rantings of a lunatic

talking over your head. Hard not to do that.

really.

 

[babe]

This is hilarious even by your high standards lmao

glad to entertain.

 

[Ron Mexico]

The short answer is this.

There have been zero appointments that served the purpose of packing the court. A lot of muted efforts, a few flagrant efforts maybe.

Historically that has been somewhat accurate. But that's been one of the main frustrations of the Republican party. They are very upset when their appointments don't vote with their party.

That's been one of the main priorities is to train up judges that will do that and get them appointed. We are just barely seeing that come to fruition with the last two appointments. It's a major swing in things.

 

[Red]

Few presidents have actually looked that crass while nominating SCOTUS picks. The Dems today however are really getting it all wrong.

They are violating the basic tenets of the Progressive strategy...... gradualism...... because they are in the mental state of panic. Not a pandemic sort of panic, a peculiar
panic of the sort all liars experience when they are publicly exposed and have no ready response. They really don't know how to deal with this moment in time.

Gradualism is based on the premise that the world is OK as it is, for now. But for good reason we need to move things this-a-way, and because most people aren't going to accept our long-term plan today, we'll make it today's plan, broken into little pieces and just keep adding on. " One step today, maybe another next week. But the world isn't going to end if we don't get it all done right now."

If the long term plan keeps changing along the way, fine. We keep moving on towards better times ahead.

In the kind of panic that the Dems or progressives seem to have now, they think the world will end if they lose this election. The ice caps will melt, the environment will rot, people will die in the streets gassed by CO2..... which indeed would be the result if all our CO2 stores in nature were released at once. People will fry in the heat, the world will burn. Amy Conan Barrett will single-handedly overpopulate the world.

The kind of thinking going on inside Dem heads is pathetic.

The fact is, the "Progressive Era" is at an epoch-end. In the coming years, political activism will founder in a world too complex for that kind of simplification. No intellectual, no elite think tank set, will be able to give us pat answers or simple directions. technology will deliver a kind of complexity that cannot be managed. It will just happen. It will be a future people want, not a future people are forced to accept. Too many choices to control.

No AI system will be able to manage it.

The fact is no President has ever successfully packed the US Supreme Court. A pick or two, when there was an opening. Every pick has been someone who never followed up on what was expected by the President, nor by the confirming Senate. They have been more independent than that, not to say they have not been essentially political hacks of a a superior class, trying to remake the world as they thought it ought to be in some sense.

RBG was not that kind of ideologue. She loved a lot of liberal causes and really wanted things to turn out her way. But she knew she could not expect the next pick to love all those same things, or think the way she did.

When a political party crassly undertakes to pack the courts with a lower class of intellectuals who really are just partisan hacks, the net effect will be the loss of the human rights that grew out of the Magna Carta and the US Constitution, and we will be having government like what China has, forever, dynastic autocracy and no actual human rights, no room for individual success or competition in real markets.

In fact, even if Biden does pack the courts, it is human nature that anybody with power will ultimately exercise it. And likely, Biden will still find himself governed in some sense by whatever number of judges we have trying to demonstrate some independence, giving pushback to the program somehow.

But even so it would be a long way back to having a government fundamentally accountable to the people.

Look at the World Court, or other national courts. A few years ago we had administratively-oriented judges looking across national boundaries for good ways to manage their issues, their cases, the whole mess of stuff on their plates. Even in those more liberal and non-Constitutional courts, even in China, there is a growing sense of resistance to the imperatives of globalism. Courts will continue this and turn more to the side of people rather than their managers, where ever they can. In places like China, it will have to be a non-threatening relaxation of authoritarian imperatives. But it is, and will continue, happening.

This is like a Manifesto of the Ignorant.