2020 Presidential election

[JazzyFresh]

Case in point.

Red and Avery had some great responses then here's typical you.

 

[Avery]

Thank you. What I don't understand is how you all are completely fine overlooking Bidens ardent racism. If racism was so bad to you guys why stay silent when Biden says "By the way, what you all know but most people don’t know, unlike the African American community, with notable exceptions, the Latino community is an incredibly diverse community with incredibly
Different attitudes about different things,”

That's racism yet none if you call it out. Personally, I find that worse than anything Trump has ever said. What about his quip about Obama not being a token black guy?

why do you overlook his own sexual assault accusations and sniffing little girls?

why do you look past his accusations of major corruption?

You guys hate Trump for these very things yet stay silent because he's your candidate.

Point by point:

- Biden has said some insensitive things about race before no doubt. Whether this is him being racist or simply fumbling his words poorly, it shows a lack of understanding
- The Tara Reade thing wasn't swept under the rug, her story utterly fell apart. There were so many inconsistencies that pursuing anything further wasn't a good use of time. As far as his behavior around kids being creepy, yeah, it's weird. I don't think he's a sexual predator, but it's creepy nonetheless
- The Hunter Biden stuff is silly to me and grasping at straws at family matters. Biden's issues back in the 80's with his plagiarism, half to none truths as well as his public behavior with Anita Hill are bigger 'doh!' moments that he's made (we won't even get into other gaffes)

All these things are problematic and would normally disqualify any candidate in my eyes. But as you point out, people dislike Trump for these very things as each of these scenarios get cranked up to a ten when viewed through that lens:

- Racism? His comments about Mexicans and dunghole countries? Central Park 5? Both sides? Stand down and stand by?
- Underage girls? Trump's infatuation and pictures with Ivanka, things he's said about her, etc. are creepy. I'll ignore the Jeffrey Epstein stuff as none of that can be confirmed
- Sexual accusations? A whole bunch. Won't get into all of them but we do know payouts happened either because of possible litigation or to simply make it disappear
- Controversies? Where do you even begin? Should we start with the A's?

Putting all that aside, the real core reason I'm voting against Trump? He accepts no accountability - none. Nothing is ever his fault, someone else is to blame. He lies about anything and everything no matter how much it's been disproven, no matter how obvious it is. That's not normal behavior - he's a full-grown man moonlighting as a petulant child. As he himself has said “Nobody likes me. It can only be my personality.” He's right about that.

He's morally bankrupt, dishonest and reflects poorly on all of us. And I've had enough.

 

[JazzyFresh]

Point by point:

- Biden has said some insensitive things about race before no doubt. Whether this is him being racist or simply fumbling his words poorly, it shows a lack of understanding
- The Tara Reade thing wasn't swept under the rug, her story utterly fell apart. There were so many inconsistencies that pursuing anything further wasn't a good use of time. As far as his behavior around kids being creepy, yeah, it's weird. I don't think he's a sexual predator, but it's creepy nonetheless
- The Hunter Biden stuff is silly to me and grasping at straws at family matters. Biden's issues back in the 80's with his plagiarism, half to none truths as well as his public behavior with Anita Hill are bigger 'doh!' moments that he's made (we won't even get into other gaffes)

All these things are problematic and would normally disqualify any candidate in my eyes. But as you point out, people dislike Trump for these very things as each of these scenarios get cranked up to a ten when viewed through that lens:

- Racism? His comments about Mexicans and dunghole countries? Central Park 5? Both sides? Stand down and stand by?
- Underage girls? Trump's infatuation and pictures with Ivanka, things he's said about her, etc. are creepy. I'll ignore the Jeffrey Epstein stuff as none of that can be confirmed
- Sexual accusations? A whole bunch. Won't get into all of them but we do know payouts happened either because of possible litigation or to simply make it disappear
- Controversies? Where do you even begin? Should we start with the A's?

Putting all that aside, the real core reason I'm voting against Trump? He accepts no accountability - none. Nothing is ever his fault, someone else is to blame. He lies about anything and everything no matter how much it's been disproven, no matter how obvious it is. That's not normal behavior - he's a full-grown man moonlighting as a petulant child. As he himself has said “Nobody likes me. It can only be my personality.” He's right about that.

He's morally bankrupt, dishonest and reflects poorly on all of us. And I've had enough.

There is nothing racist about calling a **** hole country a **** hole. How is that racist? What's funny is to hear you all claim you wanna move yet you never say to Mexico, it's always predominantly white countries. Biden telling black people that they are inferior to mexicans is racism by definition. Word for word racism yet you just claim "insensitive"? It's not insensitive it's flat out racist to say one race is better than the other. That IS racism. Calling a country a **** hole though. How is a country defined as a person? Do only a certain race live in that country?

There's far more evidence that Biden raped Reade than Kavanaugh. I don't know who is guilty or innocent but there was literally a million women march against Kavanaugh and bulling against Reade. Straight hypocrisy. The slogan by Kamala and others was "believe all woman". Hell Kamala even admitted she believed some of Bidens accusations.

Controversies? Begin with one that's been factually proven. Just one. Taxes? No. Russia? No. Ukraine? No. The idiotic Atlantic fluff piece? Gone. The controversies are media created. Manufactured out of nothing. Hell we now know 100% that Hillary was brewing something up and that her campaign paid Steele money for actual Russian propaganda. This is fact.

 

[JazzyFresh]

No one is overlooking any of that.


Why do you overlook "grab them by the *****" and raping 13-year-olds?

If you don't directly answer this question your are admitting your approval of child rape.

I don't overlook them but I've heard same banter between men every day. And show me where he was convicted of rape. I can show you a 7+ minute video of Biden touching little girls. I have seen Trump do something similar and it's definitely uncomfortable but not constant like Biden.

I mean who sniffs little girls? You tell me if I were to walk up and sniff your daughter or someone close to you, you wouldn't beat my ***? Yet Biden is your candidate.

 

[JazzyFresh]

I mean time and time again the Democratic party shows how they still have plantation thought. CNN now cancels a segment with ice cube after he spent time with Trump. Why can't black people affiliate with Trump? Why did racist Joe Biden say you ain't black if you don't vote for him? He's admitting to black that Democrats own them.



The tide is shifting. It might be too late though. You guys read about Blacks for Trump going to rioting cities to help clean up your lefty riots?

 

[LogGrad98]

I don't overlook them but I've heard same banter between men every day. And show me where he was convicted of rape. I can show you a 7+ minute video of Biden touching little girls. I have seen Trump do something similar and it's definitely uncomfortable but not constant like Biden.

I mean who sniffs little girls? You tell me if I were to walk up and sniff your daughter or someone close to you, you wouldn't beat my ***? Yet Biden is your candidate.

Are you trying to say that if someone walked by and grabbed your daughters ***** you wouldn't beat his ***? Yet Trump is your candidate?

 

[latin jazz]

I don't overlook them but I've heard same banter between men every day.

Not sure where you hang out Jazzy, but that's not normal/everyday talk between friends. Unless all your friends are 15, have some inferiority complex or want to be perceived as very "macho" (or all of the above)

 

[Getting Traded]

Do you treat your Trump supporter students like this? I bet you don't but you cowardly come here and say how much you hate them. Scary that you teach.

It is not my place to dictate to my students whom they should vote for or what they should believe. My job is to tell the truth and let them decide for themselves. But I do tell them what I think of Trump and show them the reason for my opinion. Just like everyone is trying to show you here, or almost everyone, but you're so dense, it's hopeless. You're like a member of a cult whose leader can do no wrong despite that he lies to your face and you don't have the intellectual fortitude to reject it.

 

[Getting Traded]

Well, since you @me and somehow keep thinking I'm a Democrat when I've mentioned numerous times that I'm Unaffiliated, I'll break it down a bit:

- Democrats have also ballooned our national deficit and overpromised economic turnarounds for the sake of votes
- They've failed to make inroads with rural voters and issues for the sake of other positions
- No shortage of scandals be it campaign finance, sexual escapades, illegal practices, etc.
- Pushed candidates such as HRC over more progressive candidates as a party in obvious favoritism

What you don't seem to understand, even though it's been repeated ad nauseum, is most here aren't huge proponents of Biden or even the Democratic platform, but they're huge opponents of Trump. Putting it bluntly, we think he's a ****ing embarrassment, know he's a ****ing embarrassment and are sick of being the laughing stock of the world.

I could go on and on in a myriad of ways of explaining how awful he is as a president, but it wouldn't matter. You're free to vote how you see fit and so are we. We'll see who bet on the right horse November 3rd.

I believe that the National Debt actually began to mushroom when Reagan became President and the Repugs started to lower taxes. And I was just listening to a report on NPR that said the Trump tax cuts to the rich added $1 Trillion to the debt.

 

[JazzyFresh]

Not sure where you hang out Jazzy, but that's not normal/everyday talk between friends. Unless all your friends are 15, have some inferiority complex or want to be perceived as very "macho" (or all of the above)

So when I go into gameday threads and there's a game day girl with a huge rack and robust butt. What are people doing? What about when I turn on the TV and watch netflix sexualizing 11 year olds? Or listen to a song about "wet *** *****(vaginas)" or beating women? Hell my last liberal boss was the biggest sexist I know.

Sexualizing and taking advantage of women is wrong but let's not act like it's not everywhere around us. It's not just my friends it's on every channel, every magazine, every song, everything.

 

[JazzyFresh]

It is not my place to dictate to my students whom they should vote for or what they should believe. My job is to tell the truth and let them decide for themselves. But I do tell them what I think of Trump and show them the reason for my opinion. Just like everyone is trying to show you here, or almost everyone, but you're so dense, it's hopeless. You're like a member of a cult whose leader can do no wrong despite that he lies to your face and you don't have the intellectual fortitude to reject it.

What lies? Since you know me, tell me what lies? You're the one who lied to me in an extremely psychotic angry pm that Trump didn't denounce white supremacists, then I showed you a 7+ minute long video of the many many many times he did but your high horse wannabe smart media neglected to tell you knowing how easily gullible you are That is you lying. Just like you lied about Cain and it took me two seconds to prove your lie wrong.

I mean Trump has denounced white supremacists for 20+ years and you were too stupid to look it up yourself. With no due respect you're not as smart as you think. You literally just echo what you're told.

 

[LogGrad98]

It is not my place to dictate to my students whom they should vote for or what they should believe. My job is to tell the truth and let them decide for themselves. But I do tell them what I think of Trump and show them the reason for my opinion. Just like everyone is trying to show you here, or almost everyone, but you're so dense, it's hopeless. You're like a member of a cult whose leader can do no wrong despite that he lies to your face and you don't have the intellectual fortitude to reject it.

Remember, he's a troll. Nothing more.

 

[leftyjace]

" The depths of his dishonesty is just astounding to me. The dishonesty, the transactional nature of every relationship, though it's more pathetic than anything else. He is the most flawed person I have ever met in my life."

 

[leftyjace]

 

[latin jazz]

So when I go into gameday threads and there's a game day girl with a huge rack and robust butt. What are people doing? What about when I turn on the TV and watch netflix sexualizing 11 year olds? Or listen to a song about "wet *** *****(vaginas)" or beating women? Hell my last liberal boss was the biggest sexist I know.

Sexualizing and taking advantage of women is wrong but let's not act like it's not everywhere around us. It's not just my friends it's on every channel, every magazine, every song, everything.

What kind of sick shows do you watch on netflix? Damn. Or music. Agree that woman are sexualized and it's wrong. But that doesn't make it ok or an everyday thing that should be accepted, or that talking about "*******" is something normal and casual between buddies. And definitely, I found it disgusting to listen a grown up talking in those terms, ever more so coming from someone who should inspire and create confidence, not repulsion.

To be honest, can't recall anyone talking in those terms in my inner circle (or my jobs, grad school, etc), ever (perhaps some idiots in highschool). Maybe you need to get rid of some toxicity around you.

 

[JazzyFresh]

What kind of sick shows do you watch on netflix? Damn. Or music. Agree that woman are sexualized and it's wrong. But that doesn't make it ok or an everyday thing that should be accepted, or that talking about "*******" is something normal and casual between buddies. And definitely, I found it disgusting to listen a grown up talking in those terms, ever more so coming from someone who should inspire and create confidence, not repulsion.

To be honest, can't recall anyone talking in those terms in my inner circle (or my jobs, grad school, etc), ever (perhaps some idiots in highschool). Maybe you need to get rid of some toxicity around you.

I call absolute ********...I'm part of a different sports forum, mainly Democrats who have threads like "women over 50" and "side boob" threads and these guys constantly talk about the nasty thing they would do to them. This is what men do. Is it right? No, but men are sexual deviants. Hell Kobe Bryant is a hero and we know his history. I'm not too into it but it's everywhere if you're being honest.

And I didn't watch Cuties but I did watch a short youtube video(to see if it was an overreaction) of the girls groping themselves and that's all I could stomach. Now you have Democrats sticking up for it claiming an 11 year old in spider position groping her vagina is a misunderstanding. One poster here called it a strong documentary.

 

[JazzyFresh]

Remember, he's a troll. Nothing more.

You got that link yet?

Oh... That's right....

 

[JazzyFresh]

You're ok with this lying?

What about what killed his first presidental run?

You're just flat out hypocrites. You claim you hate liars but Biden lies all of the time. You claim you hate racist yet make excuses for blatant racism by Biden. Biden had multiple accusations of rape, even Kamala says she bekieves the women but she's now VP. You all are no better than what you accuse others of. Who the f* sniffs little girls?


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[latin jazz]

I call absolute ********...I'm part of a different sports forum, mainly Democrats who have threads like "women over 50" and "side boob" threads and these guys constantly talk about the nasty thing they would do to them. This is what men do. Is it right? No, but men are sexual deviants. Hell Kobe Bryant is a hero and we know his history. I'm not too into it but it's everywhere if you're being honest.

And I didn't watch Cuties but I did watch a short youtube video(to see if it was an overreaction) of the girls groping themselves and that's all I could stomach. Now you have Democrats sticking up for it claiming an 11 year old in spider position groping her vagina is a misunderstanding. One poster here called it a strong documentary.

Why do you participate in such forums or discussions? Why do you accept/normalize such things?. Why call bs on me?. You don't even know me. It seems you surround yourself by ton of **** (or maybe you live in constant negativity).

Personally, I choose how to spend my time: who to talk to, what websites to visit, what music to listen, what book to read. Maybe you need a break from some websites and social media? (for instance, I only have FB but barely use it). There is too much **** on internet. I find most people on JFC engaging and respectful, that's why I spend some time here. But besides that, I'd rather drink wine with my wife, have a beer with my friends, do some gardening, listen to Pink Floyd and do some of the things I mentioned above.

 

[JazzyFresh]

Why do you participate in such forums or discussions? Why do you accept/normalize such things?. Why call bs on me?. You don't even know me. It seems you surround yourself by ton of **** (or maybe you live in constant negativity).

Personally, I choose how to spend my time: who to talk to, what websites to visit, what music to listen, what book to read. Maybe you need a break from some websites and social media? (for instance, I only have FB but barely use it). There is too much **** on internet. I find most people on JFC engaging and respectful, that's why I spend some time here. But besides that, I'd rather drink wine with my wife, have a beer with my friends, do some gardening, listen to Pink Floyd and do some of the things I mentioned above.

Lol read this thread. Show me an ounce of positivity here. When posters here call others cult members, Nazis, racist, and everything unimaginable to people who have a different political belief.

I have no issue with you but your playing stupid here. There are multiple threads here in constant negative scenarios filled with constant bigotry. It's just not about you so you have no problem with it. It's ok to hate on Trump supporters here but when I dish it equally it's wrong. I have never threatened to kill anybody. I have never created a thread about another poster. I have never followed others into the sports forums and called others to come bully someone and call them terrible thing like @fish, gf, thriller and zombie hace. I have never told others let's do lunch so they could get violent, that is your side, that is posters here. Again you willingly looking past that.