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Did @babe really just call Sidney Powell reliable? lololol. Even Trump and Rudy are distancing themselves from her.
Not just reliable but like the most reliable ever.

I mean she defended Michael Flynn, the most innocent traitor since Benedict Arnold.
 
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Some people love to count ballots. Look at this guy ^. ****, he'll count all your ballots and do the recount just for kicks.
 
I had heard this on the mainstream news earlier today, and I broke it down about the same way this author did. Trump wants to focus on more concrete issues that will get quicker results he wants. Powell wants to reform the whole US Election system.
According to a story in the Post, “She was too crazy even for the president," a campaign official said. Thus putting the lie to her claim to be part of “an elite strike force team that is working on behalf of the president and the campaign to make sure that our Constitution is protected”,
 
Not just reliable but like the most reliable ever.

I mean she defended Michael Flynn, the most innocent traitor since Benedict Arnold.
Flynn was one of Obama's people, a reliable democrat but with too much American backbone. He lost favor with Obama for opposing the Iran deal, and became one of Trump's reliable people.

I'd think it's an open question why he was targeted for a takedown..... for disloyalty to Obama or switching for Trump.

I believe he is an honest man framed by government agenaa wonk hacks, "because they can". Making an example of him is essential to maintaining discipline in the ranks.

In JFC, that job is probably supervised by some unthinking clapping clown who by reflex mocks anyone who says a wrong thing. Well, maybe there are two or three such clowns, who knows.

Flynn is an innocent and patriotic man.
 
According to a story in the Post, “She was too crazy even for the president," a campaign official said. Thus putting the lie to her claim to be part of “an elite strike force team that is working on behalf of the president and the campaign to make sure that our Constitution is protected”,
And, of course any media outlet that has been as reliable as the Post in lying for the cause of dumping Trump can have no bias.

No question about her enlistment for "the Trump team" being welcomed. No question about the strategic but maybe not so wholeheartedly taken decision to distance from her. Her claims will take years of trial discovery, and Tom Fitton's Judicial Watch will likely carry some of the effort. It's just too big for Trump to do. Trump will likely chip in many millions to push the good work along, asking not to be a named contributor or maybe using some third party political "foundation" or "trust" with 501(3)c tax standing like a lot of people do. But a few of her more well-documented charges will still be brought to court now by Trump's team.

She went way too far.

Trump can't even really push the China influence peddling issues because his own "team" has many bought-out players like Mitch McConnell.

China has many billions, maybe a few trillion in deployed investments in influential or key American corporates including social media, mainstream news, Las Vegas resorts, Hollywood, military contractors and real estate. Mines, resources, you name it. And Hunter knows a little about the way it works.
 
For those of you that have seen Succesion is this not exactly who you picture when you are reading @babe posts?

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Seems to be that Powell was a sacrificial lamb more than anything. You can't get rid of her being crazy when Rudy is tossing every conspiracy possible into the atmosphere. My guess is Trump had a temper tantrum and asked Rudy to 86 her because things aren't going well.

The simple truth is usually the right truth: if they had proof of anything, they'd be bringing it to court. And they're not bringing it to court - they're doing whatever they can to simply get the electors to ignore the popular vote. Good luck with that and don't be surprised when the Supreme Court politely declines to hear any case.

The Trump campaign is the living embodiment of the Black Knight from Monty Python and the Holy Grail while their election limbs get tossed off one after the other while denying the reality.
 
Flynn is an innocent and patriotic man.

But like many in Trumpworld, he’s a patriot of the QAnon variety, as he and his RI family demonstrated last July 4th. “Where we go one, we go all”.

 
And, of course any media outlet that has been as reliable as the Post in lying for the cause of dumping Trump can have no bias.
One role of a free press has always been to serve as democracy’s watchdog. And having an adversarial press has been the lot of every president. Far better than a fully compliant press. As for the cause of “dumping Trump”, that was in part the cause of people who recognized that, on a fundamental level, Trump was waging a war on human Reason. Hence the many conspiracy theories he has hatched or promoted. He elevates irrationality over reason. His war on science has been a part of that attack on human reason. You’re not ignorant of history. And examining history illustrates that there are times when irrational forces are in ascendency. We live at such a time. And Trump, as president, encouraged the darker angels of human nature. Not once did he speak as a president for all Americans. He encouraged division of Americans. He encouraged “us vs them”, where “them” was any American that did not support Trump. He equated himself with the state, in that respect. Of course there is bias. Bias in the service of a just cause, and bias in the cause of evil.
 
One role of a free press has always been to serve as democracy’s watchdog. And having an adversarial press has been the lot of every president. Far better than a fully compliant press. As for the cause of “dumping Trump”, that was in part the cause of people who recognized that, on a fundamental level, Trump was waging a war on human Reason. Hence the many conspiracy theories he has hatched or promoted. He elevates irrationality over reason. His war on science has been a part of that attack on human reason. You’re not ignorant of history. And examining history illustrates that there are times when irrational forces are in ascendency. We live at such a time. And Trump, as president, encouraged the darker angels of human nature. Not once did he speak as a president for all Americans. He encouraged division of Americans. He encouraged “us vs them”, where “them” was any American that did not support Trump. He equated himself with the state, in that respect. Of course there is bias. Bias in the service of a just cause, and bias in the cause of evil.
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One role of a free press has always been to serve as democracy’s watchdog. And having an adversarial press has been the lot of every president. Far better than a fully compliant press. As for the cause of “dumping Trump”, that was in part the cause of people who recognized that, on a fundamental level, Trump was waging a war on human Reason. Hence the many conspiracy theories he has hatched or promoted. He elevates irrationality over reason. His war on science has been a part of that attack on human reason. You’re not ignorant of history. And examining history illustrates that there are times when irrational forces are in ascendency. We live at such a time. And Trump, as president, encouraged the darker angels of human nature. Not once did he speak as a president for all Americans. He encouraged division of Americans. He encouraged “us vs them”, where “them” was any American that did not support Trump. He equated himself with the state, in that respect. Of course there is bias. Bias in the service of a just cause, and bias in the cause of evil.
The problem here with your idealized "free press" is that ownership has bias, always and forever. We had a "free press"during the Civil War that hated Lincoln, and we had a "free press" involved in the deliberate incitement "Remember the Maine" that brought the US into Imperialism, with British smiles galore, when we went to war with Spain and took Cuba and the Philippines.

You glorify "interests" pursuing an agenda. You're not willing to be honest about any facts.

You believe "conspiracy theories" about the opposition your agenda.

In a climate of hogwash, you are happy to be in the mix.
 
Like client, Flynn, like attorney, Powell.


Maybe I've have to google QAnon or something. If the Left is calling it something bad, it probably is poking at some of the Left's open sores.

It didn't take me long to realize anyone calling themselves a "fact checker" is a liar out the gate. Used to be oh twenty five years ago the internet looked like an open source public press where anyone could get away with saying anything. Now it's being turned into another "Pravda".
 
The problem here with your idealized "free press" is that ownership has bias, always and forever. We had a "free press"during the Civil War that hated Lincoln, and we had a "free press" involved in the deliberate incitement "Remember the Maine" that brought the US into Imperialism, with British smiles galore, when we went to war with Spain and took Cuba and the Philippines.

You glorify "interests" pursuing an agenda. You're not willing to be honest about any facts.

You believe "conspiracy theories" about the opposition your agenda.

In a climate of hogwash, you are happy to be in the mix.
Look we get it. You prefer a press that is compliant to the presidency..... If the president happens to be a right leaning republican

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The problem here with your idealized "free press" is that ownership has bias, always and forever. We had a "free press"during the Civil War that hated Lincoln, and we had a "free press" involved in the deliberate incitement "Remember the Maine" that brought the US into Imperialism, with British smiles galore, when we went to war with Spain and took Cuba and the Philippines.

You glorify "interests" pursuing an agenda. You're not willing to be honest about any facts.

You believe "conspiracy theories" about the opposition your agenda.

In a climate of hogwash, you are happy to be in the mix.
...and so are you, whether you can admit it or not, and assuming you are aware of it to begin with. It's ironic-- these three accusations you just threw at Red describe you so perfectly. Are you aware of that?

Look, nobody here is tapped into some sparkling source of purely objective information, or even a greater share of it than the rest of us, and that includes you, friend. And yet, here you persist with this relentless tone that somehow you are the only person with the ability to really see through the smoke and make the best sense of <insert topic, but usually related to politics>. Caveat: If you do have better information than the rest of us, please-- raise us all up by sharing it so we can have a level conversation with you for once (personally, I love it when I get to explore how wrong I've been about something). Because otherwise, honestly, despite all of the words and the giant, smoking clandestine hat you're proudly wearing, it's become super-obvious you're just another far-right conspiracist believing with all his soul that Democrats are evil and Republicans are stoically bearing the standard of salvation for all of humanity. The fact you articulate it in a usually creative/educated fashion is something, but it doesn't change the fact, once thousands of words of talking down have been distilled into their essence.
 
Flynn was one of Obama's people, a reliable democrat but with too much American backbone. He lost favor with Obama for opposing the Iran deal, and became one of Trump's reliable people.

I'd think it's an open question why he was targeted for a takedown..... for disloyalty to Obama or switching for Trump.

I believe he is an honest man framed by government agenaa wonk hacks, "because they can". Making an example of him is essential to maintaining discipline in the ranks.

In JFC, that job is probably supervised by some unthinking clapping clown who by reflex mocks anyone who says a wrong thing. Well, maybe there are two or three such clowns, who knows.

Flynn is an innocent and patriotic man.
He was targeted for being a ****ing traitor to the U.S.. The evidence is clear. He was selling us out.
 
He was targeted for being a ****ing traitor to the U.S.. The evidence is clear. He was selling us out.
Not true. The investigation failed to come up with any evidence, the charges were political and baseless.

But hey, maybe you're right. You might be talking about some other "us" he sold out. The Resistance....... yes...... you're right. He sold out Obama's plan to prop up the Irankian terrorists.

If Flynn is the US patriot, Obama is the man who sold us out.

I think it's clear that you and this site's little group have a different view of America's future.

I would have considered Flynn a sellout if he hadn't switched sides.
 
...and so are you, whether you can admit it or not, and assuming you are aware of it to begin with. It's ironic-- these three accusations you just threw at Red describe you so perfectly. Are you aware of that?

Look, nobody here is tapped into some sparkling source of purely objective information, or even a greater share of it than the rest of us, and that includes you, friend. And yet, here you persist with this relentless tone that somehow you are the only person with the ability to really see through the smoke and make the best sense of <insert topic, but usually related to politics>. Caveat: If you do have better information than the rest of us, please-- raise us all up by sharing it so we can have a level conversation with you for once (personally, I love it when I get to explore how wrong I've been about something). Because otherwise, honestly, despite all of the words and the giant, smoking clandestine hat you're proudly wearing, it's become super-obvious you're just another far-right conspiracist believing with all his soul that Democrats are evil and Republicans are stoically bearing the standard of salvation for all of humanity. The fact you articulate it in a usually creative/educated fashion is something, but it doesn't change the fact, once thousands of words of talking down have been distilled into their essence.
I am aware that you are just as conspiracy-theory based as Red is, yes.

As for raising the level of conversation in here, I see it's useless. I would have to convert you all from what you are, which in most cases is cemented in your basic interests, your jobs and friends, that it really would only be appropriate for me to start my own site where, if anyone were interested, they could come for a better level of information and analysis....... and perhaps some actual truth. But what is Truth?

Pretty sure no human mind has ever made such a connection of comprehension of the cosmos that belief, opinion, or even our science is what we imagine as "Truth".

But my God, 4 years ago this crew in JFC was calling Trump's election invalid and saying it is a high calling to save the World to get him impeached. I've seen people openly wishing they could shoot him, others saying they have fantastic dreams of blowing up the White House. It is known to some that there are quite an awesome number of paid mercenary "activists" well equipped and ready to rage in the streets.

I think you've been drinking the swill too long. If you're not willing to just march outta JFC and never come back, you're a lost soul. A well educated/indoctrinated lost soul but lost nevertheless.

You're plenty smart. You can figure things out in a better way yourself if you want to.

I don't think we have the ability to resolve every issue here, but the election count is the subject of this thread.

From now on, I would like to restrict comments to actual claims of issues, with some sort of evidence advanced in the post.

Other than that, I think I'll start harassing the mods with "Off-topic" complaints.

This post of yours is nothing but personal comments and is off-topic,.
 
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