Guys you were wrong about
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I guess mostly from the first time you saw them play/highlights and formulated an opinion.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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I shouldn’t share this but I was the biggest cheerleader for Lyles. He made me look like a genius his rookie season but sadly those three hour practices were too much for him
Darkwing Duck
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I recall being really high on the next Trevor "Nic Batum" Ariza, Xavier Henry.
I thought Derrick Williams would be good. Instead he busted out of the league.
I thought Archie Goodwin could have been good, but he never learned to shoot.
I thought Mario Hezonja had at least as much natural talent as Gordon Hayward, but he can't dribble or pass, so he mostly just stands there.
I thought Archie Goodwin could have been good, but he never learned to shoot.
I thought Mario Hezonja had at least as much natural talent as Gordon Hayward, but he can't dribble or pass, so he mostly just stands there.
SteakNEggs
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I thought Grayson Allen was going to be a solid contributor from day one.
Game6Conley
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Hasheem Thabeet and Dennis Smith Jr
on the flipside I guess Domantas Sabonis, not that i thought he was bad, just didnt see him being the efficient player he is.
on the flipside I guess Domantas Sabonis, not that i thought he was bad, just didnt see him being the efficient player he is.
homeytennis
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Eric Maynor. When the Jazz drafted him I thought "Boy we have our point guard for the next 15 years." Wrongo big time.
Jazz Fusion
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Torrey Ellis
Here’s as comprehensive of a list of “my guys” as I can think of. They get better the closer to present it gets:
2001: This was the first draft that I really started following the players and everything leading up to it. We were looking for a better backup PF and backup PG and my delusion was thinking we'd grab someone who would both help with that but also be Stockton and Malone replacements at those positions...
Ousmane Cisse
Omar Cook
Jamal Tinsley
Post draft there were a lot of guys I would have rather had, like Tony Parker. Of course, that year was a model for the rest of Jazz superfandom: spend a lot of time hyping yourself up only to be rapidly deflated.
2002: There isn't a guy that stands out as "my guy" but plenty of guys I was intrigued by. If anyone was "my guy" I'd have to say probably Melvin Ely, who went before our pick. When we ended up drafting Ryan Humphry with Qyntel Woods still on the board (the JUCO Tracy McGrady), I was absolutely furious. But then like a half hour later it came out we were trading him for Borchardt, who I was stoked about. I never thought he would drop to us. I was also interested in Jamal Sampson (the next Jermaine O'Neal).
2003: I don't recall having a guy in this draft. But I do remember liking Pavlovic. The Euros at that time were always so alluring because you may have found the next amazing player. I thought Pavlovic was going to be a 20 ppg guy.
2004: Omeka Okafor was my guy a year before the draft. I wanted someone like an Elton Brand -- a traditional 4 who was a big shot blocker. He didn't really work out like that. He was really soft. I followed the draft peripherally through the beginning of 2004 until the draft because I was on my mission. But I warmed up to Araujo, who went way before our pick. I had to call a member to find out who we drafted that night. We had three picks.
2005: On mission. Too far out of the loop.
2006: JJ Redick. I got home from my mission early 2006 and watched as DWill eventually assumed the starting position and really liked his game. I thought Redick would be the perfect person to couple next to him in the backcourt because we hadn't had a shooter at that position since Hornacek retired.
2007: Didn't have a guy.
2008: I did like Kosta but I was very skeptical of his lack of rebounding in college.
2009: Was not excited about anyone. Was not excited about drafting Maynor.
2010: Evan Turner. We had this Knicks pick we were looking at forever and early in the year it looked like they were going to be top 5. I wanted to be big at every position and I liked his college numbers. When that pick fell out of that range, my guy was Paul George. I liked his numbers, too, and they were similar in that they were both SFs who were putting up good points, assists, and rebounds, but PG obviously not playing against great competition. I was furious when we passed on him, and was furious with the Hayward pick.
2011: Enes Kanter. He was the guy I wanted most. Before we jumped in the lottery, I accepted that he was out of our range and change my sights to Kawhi Leonard. I was amazed that he was still on the board for our next pick and my wife and I were out to dinner at Tucano's when my dad texted me that didn't draft Kawhi. Was pissed the next day when I found out San Antonio traded for him because then I knew he'd be good.
2012: MKG. I wanted this guy since the previous draft. Maybe PKM had provided more info about him being a really solid kid that really had my hyping myself about him. Obviously I knew he'd probably be out of our range without a possibility to get him, but ultimately it didn't matter.
2013: Trey Burke. I thought this dude would fit perfectly. The acronym PGOTF became big once we moved on from DWill. I had just graduated medical school, then I ruptured my achilles and had surgery, and we moved for residency. Our house wasn't going to be done until the end of my orientation week for residency, so we had moved down to Texas and my wife and our two kids at the time were living in a hotel for a week and I was in a boot with crutches. I watched that draft from the hotel room and was pissed when he went before us, then got super stoked when the rumors heated up of him being on the move to Utah. I was so excited that night.
2014: Jabari. I thought Wiggins was going to be overrated and suck. They both suck. When we dropped to 5 I didn't even care because I thought Exum sucked and I thought Gordon sucked. I think I eventually got to the point where I would have been okay with McDermott.
2015: Frank Kaminsky was my guy all the way. Hated the Lyles pick but also didn't like any of the guys that were on the board. I would have been okay with Booker but still would have been sour about not getting Frank.
2016: I didn't pay attention to this draft because I had a lot going on. We were trying to buy some property in Utah for an eventual move back, and was pretty busy with work. It ultimately didn't matter because we traded the pick for a veteran, which I was happy about.
2017: Semi Ojeley and Sterling Brown. I hadn't looked into Donovan and, honestly, if I had, he would not have been on my radar at all, but I knew a lot of people wanted him. I was pretty lukewarm. Wasn't super excited about combo guard.
2018: Double D. Donte DiVincenzo... I still like this guy. Has the total it factor. In reality, I wanted this POS pick traded for Mirotic. Was not happy at all with Grayson Allen.
2019: I'm glad we traded that MF because it's time to push all the chips to the center.
2020: Didn't pay any attention to the draft. Zip. Except draft night looking up who we took.
Thanks for reading.
2001: This was the first draft that I really started following the players and everything leading up to it. We were looking for a better backup PF and backup PG and my delusion was thinking we'd grab someone who would both help with that but also be Stockton and Malone replacements at those positions...
Ousmane Cisse
Omar Cook
Jamal Tinsley
Post draft there were a lot of guys I would have rather had, like Tony Parker. Of course, that year was a model for the rest of Jazz superfandom: spend a lot of time hyping yourself up only to be rapidly deflated.
2002: There isn't a guy that stands out as "my guy" but plenty of guys I was intrigued by. If anyone was "my guy" I'd have to say probably Melvin Ely, who went before our pick. When we ended up drafting Ryan Humphry with Qyntel Woods still on the board (the JUCO Tracy McGrady), I was absolutely furious. But then like a half hour later it came out we were trading him for Borchardt, who I was stoked about. I never thought he would drop to us. I was also interested in Jamal Sampson (the next Jermaine O'Neal).
2003: I don't recall having a guy in this draft. But I do remember liking Pavlovic. The Euros at that time were always so alluring because you may have found the next amazing player. I thought Pavlovic was going to be a 20 ppg guy.
2004: Omeka Okafor was my guy a year before the draft. I wanted someone like an Elton Brand -- a traditional 4 who was a big shot blocker. He didn't really work out like that. He was really soft. I followed the draft peripherally through the beginning of 2004 until the draft because I was on my mission. But I warmed up to Araujo, who went way before our pick. I had to call a member to find out who we drafted that night. We had three picks.
2005: On mission. Too far out of the loop.
2006: JJ Redick. I got home from my mission early 2006 and watched as DWill eventually assumed the starting position and really liked his game. I thought Redick would be the perfect person to couple next to him in the backcourt because we hadn't had a shooter at that position since Hornacek retired.
2007: Didn't have a guy.
2008: I did like Kosta but I was very skeptical of his lack of rebounding in college.
2009: Was not excited about anyone. Was not excited about drafting Maynor.
2010: Evan Turner. We had this Knicks pick we were looking at forever and early in the year it looked like they were going to be top 5. I wanted to be big at every position and I liked his college numbers. When that pick fell out of that range, my guy was Paul George. I liked his numbers, too, and they were similar in that they were both SFs who were putting up good points, assists, and rebounds, but PG obviously not playing against great competition. I was furious when we passed on him, and was furious with the Hayward pick.
2011: Enes Kanter. He was the guy I wanted most. Before we jumped in the lottery, I accepted that he was out of our range and change my sights to Kawhi Leonard. I was amazed that he was still on the board for our next pick and my wife and I were out to dinner at Tucano's when my dad texted me that didn't draft Kawhi. Was pissed the next day when I found out San Antonio traded for him because then I knew he'd be good.
2012: MKG. I wanted this guy since the previous draft. Maybe PKM had provided more info about him being a really solid kid that really had my hyping myself about him. Obviously I knew he'd probably be out of our range without a possibility to get him, but ultimately it didn't matter.
2013: Trey Burke. I thought this dude would fit perfectly. The acronym PGOTF became big once we moved on from DWill. I had just graduated medical school, then I ruptured my achilles and had surgery, and we moved for residency. Our house wasn't going to be done until the end of my orientation week for residency, so we had moved down to Texas and my wife and our two kids at the time were living in a hotel for a week and I was in a boot with crutches. I watched that draft from the hotel room and was pissed when he went before us, then got super stoked when the rumors heated up of him being on the move to Utah. I was so excited that night.
2014: Jabari. I thought Wiggins was going to be overrated and suck. They both suck. When we dropped to 5 I didn't even care because I thought Exum sucked and I thought Gordon sucked. I think I eventually got to the point where I would have been okay with McDermott.
2015: Frank Kaminsky was my guy all the way. Hated the Lyles pick but also didn't like any of the guys that were on the board. I would have been okay with Booker but still would have been sour about not getting Frank.
2016: I didn't pay attention to this draft because I had a lot going on. We were trying to buy some property in Utah for an eventual move back, and was pretty busy with work. It ultimately didn't matter because we traded the pick for a veteran, which I was happy about.
2017: Semi Ojeley and Sterling Brown. I hadn't looked into Donovan and, honestly, if I had, he would not have been on my radar at all, but I knew a lot of people wanted him. I was pretty lukewarm. Wasn't super excited about combo guard.
2018: Double D. Donte DiVincenzo... I still like this guy. Has the total it factor. In reality, I wanted this POS pick traded for Mirotic. Was not happy at all with Grayson Allen.
2019: I'm glad we traded that MF because it's time to push all the chips to the center.
2020: Didn't pay any attention to the draft. Zip. Except draft night looking up who we took.
Thanks for reading.
Not draft, but here’s a guy I was wrong about: Keith Van Horn.
In the tail end of Stockton and Malone days, shortly after we got bumped (upset) in the first round by Dallas, the rumors started swirling of us trading Donyell Marshall and Bryon Russell for KVH. I was very opposed to this because I viewed it as trading two good players for one. There was a guy on either here or JazzHoops, or both, names Jozef, from somewhere in Eastern Europe, who was a huge proponent of KVH (and Eric Piatkowski). He was convinced these guys were perfect for the system. Me, at the time, I was too sentimental. Bryon Russell was a guy from our finals runs and the “young and exciting” guy (not at that time, but that’s the image I grew up with earlier). And Marshall was the surprise. I was pissed when Eisley left (again sentimentality) but we got Donyell back and he really seemed to look way better in that first year than his numbers showed.
But in hindsight, that move would have really propelled us forward if we had KVH at the three next to Karl. It would have been dynamite.
When I think of DL and watch his moves as a GM, he reminds me a lot of high school me and how I would have run the franchise, allowing sentimentality to cloud my ability of seeing what would obviously help the team move forward. Conley for OPJ, to me, would be like moving Russell and Marshall for KVH.
In the tail end of Stockton and Malone days, shortly after we got bumped (upset) in the first round by Dallas, the rumors started swirling of us trading Donyell Marshall and Bryon Russell for KVH. I was very opposed to this because I viewed it as trading two good players for one. There was a guy on either here or JazzHoops, or both, names Jozef, from somewhere in Eastern Europe, who was a huge proponent of KVH (and Eric Piatkowski). He was convinced these guys were perfect for the system. Me, at the time, I was too sentimental. Bryon Russell was a guy from our finals runs and the “young and exciting” guy (not at that time, but that’s the image I grew up with earlier). And Marshall was the surprise. I was pissed when Eisley left (again sentimentality) but we got Donyell back and he really seemed to look way better in that first year than his numbers showed.
But in hindsight, that move would have really propelled us forward if we had KVH at the three next to Karl. It would have been dynamite.
When I think of DL and watch his moves as a GM, he reminds me a lot of high school me and how I would have run the franchise, allowing sentimentality to cloud my ability of seeing what would obviously help the team move forward. Conley for OPJ, to me, would be like moving Russell and Marshall for KVH.
Wow. AD? That's like three strikeouts in one player.
It was weird how Kawhi dropped in that draft after being touted earlier in the season. A lot of GM's screwed that up. Wasn't his background/dad's murder part of the drop?
She went by Tiffany. I was very wrong about this guy later in the night.