Apollo Moon "Hoax" Film makers are corrupt!
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Holy piss, the Apollo moon missions were fake?!
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AMERICAN MOON, 2017
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I have never been fully convinced because if the site where the moon lander landed, shown in the pics, is the real place, I've been there too.
All you need is a good backdrop with the Earth and stars. We have the sand and the rocks. People pick up rocks all the time in the deserts, casting eyes over the mud flats or desert scrub to mountains miles away. Never mind that these rocks are mostly "Ice Float" from lakes long gone, there are some that really do come here from the moon. A big meteor hit on the moon expels debris which is caught in our gravity. The same with Mars, besides asteroids themselves.
So in the run up to this Moon Fever, I've been following the new space capsule designs, which are very impressively trying to insulate the capsule enough to let humans survive the Van Allen Radiation belt, Perhaps there is a zone where the effects are minimal. Not convinced that's minimal enough.
The next issue is the "Moon Wind" that ripples the flag we planted "there". Let alone the Lunar launch over shifting sands......
This video is three hours long. I'll have to watch it all later.
All you need is a good backdrop with the Earth and stars. We have the sand and the rocks. People pick up rocks all the time in the deserts, casting eyes over the mud flats or desert scrub to mountains miles away. Never mind that these rocks are mostly "Ice Float" from lakes long gone, there are some that really do come here from the moon. A big meteor hit on the moon expels debris which is caught in our gravity. The same with Mars, besides asteroids themselves.
So in the run up to this Moon Fever, I've been following the new space capsule designs, which are very impressively trying to insulate the capsule enough to let humans survive the Van Allen Radiation belt, Perhaps there is a zone where the effects are minimal. Not convinced that's minimal enough.
The next issue is the "Moon Wind" that ripples the flag we planted "there". Let alone the Lunar launch over shifting sands......
This video is three hours long. I'll have to watch it all later.
The Van Allen Radiation Belt is easy to shield against. This is known.
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The total weight of all known lunar meteorites does not come remotely close to the total weight of lunar samples returned from the moon and held by NASA in Houston. The first lunar meteorite recognized as such is Allan Hills 81005, found in the cold desert of Antarctica in 1982. The first hot desert lunar meteorite discovered was Calcalong Creek, Australia. It was found amidst the Millbillillie meteorite strewn field, which fell in 1960. My friend Bob Haag recognized it as lunar in a shipment of Millbillillie samples he received in 1990. It weighs only 19 grams. Most would have missed it, but Haag recognized a difference, and acted on his hunch to have it analyzed and identified as the first hot desert lunar meteorite, and the first held in private hands. Many lunar meteorites have been found in the Morocco/Algeria region of Northwest Africa(NWA).Those are the ones that have entered the meteorite collector market in recent decades. But all lunar meteorites long post date the Apollo missions. Certainly, the lunar samples held in Houston are not meteorites. They were brought back by America’s lunar missions. It’s easy to know they are not meteorites. It’s easy to know they are lunar in origin. They were not given to NASA by aliens. They originated from America’s lunar missions.
Bottom line: NASA’s lunar samples have been loaned to scientists the world over, for various studies. Two things are very easy to determine: the samples could only have originated on the moon, and they are not meteoritic in origin. The lack of cosmic ray exposure age will eliminate meteorites. The only way NASA could have come into their possession is via the lunar missions.
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Are there any arguments put forth that haven't been debunked by one of the sites doing that, like http://www.clavius.org?
Just to be clear, I know absolutely nothing about the Moon. I've never been there. There are thousands of rocks on the salt flats, old lake beds of the Great Basin. Most are assumed to be dropped there by melting ice after rains or floods push them out on the ice. Maybe during the Ice Ages there were ice sheets that lasted into spring when it's more likely there was flooding. The ice floats around while melting. Some geologists claim the winds have carved out a helluva lot lakebed sands, tens or hundreds of feet of it, piling it up in Canada Washington State, or the Great Plains. But the rocks have been left there on the surface. Some rockhounds want to call black iron oxide
All the debunking "authorities" I've ever looked at are *****eads pushing some paid agenda, so I never listen to them, either.
I think it's fun to speculate, and that's all I claim to do. Or care to do.
Anyone who claims to actually know anything is a fake scientist/religious monk trying to stop science dead in its tracks.
Amen.
No quantitative evidence has been advanced to support this "fact". Maybe there is some, somewhere, and I just haven't looked yet.
I believe the main issue is heat, from ion impacts on the metal skin. The original moon mission was supposed to have been achieved by running the capsule through a relatively "weak" spot in the field. A secondary issue in space is radiation of several kinds. A study of the BE:IR study done in the sixties would cover them all. I used to have a summary of that report under my elbow while helping a real scientist write research proposals. The full study takes up six feet of library shelf, back then, before modern data storage...... Committees on Biological Effects of Atomic Radiation, 1954-1964 (nasonline.org)
"Biological Effects of Ionizing Radiation"
I have previously linked articles related to the design of a new generation of capsules which have insulation several inches think..... something like polystyrene fixed to the insides of the metal shield. This is an improvement, but it sorta validates my skepticism and "explains" why we haven't been all that gung ho to repeat the moon landings.
The Clavius site and the posters on it's forum don't debunk the hoax proof. They try to obfuscate it and then just consider it to be debunked. Persistent truthers who try to debate on the Clavius forum don't last long. They get banned if they're winning debates too decisively. Check out the info on Clavius in post #95.
Holy piss, the Apollo moon missions were fake?!
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On the Clavius forum you'll just see a bunch of shills* talking to each other. They all know that Apollo was faked as well as the hoax-believers do.
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Again, scientists around the world have been allowed to study lunar samples returned by America’s manned lunar missions. It is impossible to fake lunar rocks. Understand? Impossible. It is also impossible to disguise a lunar meteorite, (for which we have many samples, even private collectors like myself own lunar meteorite samples) as a non meteoritic lunar sample. The lunar meteorite sample will have signatures of cosmic ray exposure age, (produced by the meteorite orbiting the sun before intersecting the Earth’s orbit and being captured by our gravitational field) that a sample actually collected from the moon will not. Therefore, NASA could not secretly substitute meteoritic lunar samples and send those to scientists for study. Understand?
The net result of these incontrovertible facts is that we would need to believe that scientists from countries throughout the world, including many in the states, would somehow not be able to tell a lunar meteorite sample from a lunar sample collected on the moon by human missions. And, by now, there have been so many scientists and labs in the United States and worldwide that have studied Apollo samples, that we would be expected to believe would have to be keeping their mouths shut and being in on the conspiracy.
This is an absurd scenario that falls apart when one realizes what I have described above. One need not look past what I am here describing to collapse this conspiracy nonsense.....
The net result of these incontrovertible facts is that we would need to believe that scientists from countries throughout the world, including many in the states, would somehow not be able to tell a lunar meteorite sample from a lunar sample collected on the moon by human missions. And, by now, there have been so many scientists and labs in the United States and worldwide that have studied Apollo samples, that we would be expected to believe would have to be keeping their mouths shut and being in on the conspiracy.
This is an absurd scenario that falls apart when one realizes what I have described above. One need not look past what I am here describing to collapse this conspiracy nonsense.....
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