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Dwyane Wade buys ownership stake in Utah Jazz

JimLes said:
They're not irregular plurals. They're simply uncountable nouns and don't form plurals under normal circumstances.
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And under normal circumstances you’d be right (like, maybe gossiping around a knitting circle). But team identities create something other than normal circumstances, for both organizations and fans.

I’ve heard people here in Utah say “he’s a Jazz” throughout my life. If there’s more than one player who is a “Jazz”, then it becomes a plural under the standard creaed by all the other mascot plurals.

I’m sure the common word usage is similar in Oklahoma and Florida.

That type of usage makes for a set of irregular plurals within the context being discussed on this forum.

I’m completely game if you’d like to flesh out your argument to the contrary, though. But you’re going to have to do better than relying on “normal circumstances”, which probably don’t even exist anyway when you realize that the definitions/qualifications of words for dictionaries like the OED and Webster have been relying on descriptive understandings just as much as prescriptive for the last fifty years.

I don’t think there’s a “queen’s english” type of authority that can even be pointed to with regards to the NBA. I mean, Mitchell handled Shaq with an “Aight”. So it’s just as likely to be Patrick Beverley as Adam Silver.
 
One thing I was thinking about with this situation is that Wade brings championship stature and experience to the team. He wants to be involved and will most definitely be mentoring the team about mindset and what it takes to get it done in the playoffs.

Could be the sneakiest signing of the year as far as helping keep the Jazz locked in and ready to go come playoff time.
 
cowhide said:
You can still be a conservative and help with diversity.
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For sure, that’s what I’m saying. I believe strongly in diversity and helping people feel part of the community, I was just saying that although I’m not liberal, Dwayne Wade brings a greater ability for conversations, perspective, and compromise than many other people who’s political views differ than those of mine and the majority of Utahns. Many people who are politically active seem to take a hardline approach that makes others more defensive IMO, where as Dwayne keeps level headed and is very respectful. Ryan Smith and Dwayne Wade are two guys that can help Utah open up a little more to some more perspectives while helping Utahns still feel like they aren’t giving up there own ideologies or whatever you want to call it. I’m pumped man, I’m 100% about Utah being a red state but there is medium red with compromise and such, then there’s that political extremism crap I think we all wanna avoid. Anyways, just happy to have guys that seem ready, competent, and committed to help develop Utah.
 
D Wade will be invaluable at recruiting FAs starting immediately
Imagine one of the most respected players in NBA and future HOF Jazz owner visiting selected players and talking them into playing for Jazz
He only needs to get one or two to sign to get the ball rolling
Excited to see how this plays out
 
This is a good acquisition for the Jazz. Certainly Wade could have gone elsewhere, but it looks like a personal relationship with Rick Smith decided the issue.

Donovan Mitchell is happy about it.
 
slc said:
D Wade will be invaluable at recruiting FAs starting immediately
Imagine one of the most respected players in NBA and future HOF Jazz owner visiting selected players and talking them into playing for Jazz
He only needs to get one or two to sign to get the ball rolling
Excited to see how this plays out
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The problem is the Jazz don't have cap-room. Yeah, Wade might help recruiting, but the Jazz are still going to have to pay more than their competitors to get talent.
*Putting an unreasonable amount of hope (like 1% hope) that Wade somehow gets Lebron to retire in Utah and have the Jazz draft LBJ JR.*

I think the biggest thing is that he will be positive PR for the Jazz. He will make the team look more appealing to the average fan as there will be a voice on TV that is very pro-Jazz. They won't be the butt of the joke as often, which clearly affects guys like Rudy who manifest that into conspiratorial thoughts. He also might help foster economic and sponsorships ties to China as he's one of the biggest China/NBA ambassadors with his Li-Ning deal (view that positively or negatively, up to you).
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
The problem is the Jazz don't have cap-room. Yeah, Wade might help recruiting, but the Jazz are still going to have to pay more than their competitors to get talent.
*Putting an unreasonable amount of hope (like 1% hope) that Wade somehow gets Lebron to retire in Utah and have the Jazz draft LBJ JR.*

I think the biggest thing is that he will be positive PR for the Jazz. He will make the team look more appealing to the average fan as there will be a voice on TV that is very pro-Jazz. They won't be the butt of the joke as often, which clearly affects guys like Rudy who manifest that into conspiratorial thoughts. He also might help foster economic and sponsorships ties to China as he's one of the biggest China/NBA ambassadors with his Li-Ning deal (view that positively or negatively, up to you).
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I think he might have an impact on future bought out veterans who historically have had less than no interest in Utah. And, the cap room issue is isn't a forever problem.

I hadn't thought of the China connection. That will have dwindling appeal to many. U.S/China relations are going to get significantly more messy.
 
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