Mitchell injury

[Handlogten's Heros]

Everything fits into individualized scenarios with many different variables and moving pieces. It's something I've tried to stress heavily on this forum on many issues because as a society we look at these things as very black and white and view things as being tight protocols. Any time I suggest things can enter decision-making that's influenced by a myriad of other issues not pertinent to the actual issue at hand, people act like I'm crazy, because from a societal point of view everything always looks all neat and tidy and all science-y where they ask the magic 8 ball and the universe spits back unadulterated truths.

That said, I have no idea what's going on here, but a disagreement in how this is managed, even amongst competent professionals, is not out of the ordinary, and I'd even argue is standard. People are going to have strong opinions. I've preached Venn-diagram influences in these decisions and absolutely nobody makes a decision they otherwise didn't have the ability to make simply by something like spite or bias. It's just that the bubble for spite and bias moves around and influences the decision to be made that's more consistent with it. This can be a very unconscious process.

I don't know if what factors into this or why said decision was actually made, but the above is completely reasonable. Never assume that there's one well laid out pathway that you follow that comes from some holy writ of medical practice. There's more uncertainly and guesswork and bias at the highest levels than anyone cares to recognize.

This is what I think happened... we didn’t let Happy putt.

 

[l Abach l]

Can't wait for Spence to interview him and talk to him about the weather, Baylor basketball, and his family vacation plans for 25 minutes and then let him off the phone without answering one ****ing relevant question.

Par for the course for Utah sports media. Never asking the tough questions

Nah. DL learned from the best. I mean, we're still fighting about Sloan vs. DWill when that's a false dichotomy, and it was the FO who botched that and put those two in the situation to begin with.

Sloan should've quit years before that ever occurred. It was clear dementia was hitting him and the FO just sat there and waited for an inevitable blow up.

 

[jumpin bean]

ITS A SIGN OF WEAKNESS THAT THE JAZZ ALWAYS GET MAD AT EACH OTHERAFTER THEY HAVE BEEN BULLIED,SUCK IT UP BUTTERCUP, THIS GRIZZ TEAM JUST HEADBUTTED US ,PUSHED US AROUND LIKE SCHOOL YARD BULLIES, WE NEED TO DIRECT OUR IRE TO THEWSE GRIZZLY PUNKS THAT ARE CALLING AND TREATING US LIKE SOFT WIMPS.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

ITS A SIGN OF WEAKNESS THAT THE JAZZ ALWAYS GET MAD AT EACH OTHERAFTER THEY HAVE BEEN BULLIED,SUCK IT UP BUTTERCUP, THIS GRIZZ TEAM JUST HEADBUTTED US ,PUSHED US AROUND LIKE SCHOOL YARD BULLIES, WE NEED TO DIRECT OUR IRE TO THEWSE GRIZZLY PUNKS THAT ARE CALLING AND TREATING US LIKE SOFT WIMPS.

Jae? That you?

 

[MTS]

The thing is the Jazz have one of the most highly respected medical staffs in the entire NBA, despite what some forum idiots want you to believe.

Mitchell is a diva. It's proven and it's a pattern. He was ready to force the team to trade Gobert over the whole covid thing because he wanted to make sure the public knew it was all Gobert's fault and not his. Now he's doing the same thing with the medical team. He wants the entire league to know he's ready to go and he isn't soft, so he's trying to force his way into playing and he's willing to throw the medical staff, one that is regarded as a top NBA medical staff, under the bus to do so.

The top regarded medical staff shouldn't be clearing a player to play and then blindsiding the team with news to the contrary hours before a playoff game. If there was a possibility of him not playing, he should have been on the injury report and the players should have known. The fact that they somehow missed that possibility looks horrible for them.

Given that, and given that we were all led to believe the injury was minor, only for it to drag on for six weeks and bleed into the playoffs, then they're not looking fantastic here.

I will say the Jazz organization could have spared themselves this PR headache from the get-go had they been more transparent about the extent of Mitchell's injury. Everybody thought it was minor and he'd be back before the playoffs.

 

[jumpin bean]

Jae? That you?

YES IT IS

 

[infection]

ITS A SIGN OF WEAKNESS THAT THE JAZZ ALWAYS GET MAD AT EACH OTHERAFTER THEY HAVE BEEN BULLIED,SUCK IT UP BUTTERCUP, THIS GRIZZ TEAM JUST HEADBUTTED US ,PUSHED US AROUND LIKE SCHOOL YARD BULLIES, WE NEED TO DIRECT OUR IRE TO THEWSE GRIZZLY PUNKS THAT ARE CALLING AND TREATING US LIKE SOFT WIMPS.

A lot of truth to this, too. This may well be a big issue, but focusing on it (as a team) is a losing strategy.

 

[MTS]

By the way, it's not *just* Mitchell leaking this to the media.

Gobert, Bojan, and Conley also remarked on being blindsided by the news.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

By the way, it's not *just* Mitchell leaking this to the media.

Gobert, Bojan, and Conley also remarked on being blindsided by the news.

****... all of them gonna be out for the next game.

 

[LogGrad98]

Holy hell that's so ****ing stupid. How can we have a "power struggle" over an ankle injury? Why would Mitchell's staff and the team staff not just confer and come to an agreement? What a **** show at the worst possible time. This is so ****ing stupid. Someone in upper management needs to get ahead of this. But it's too late to get ahead of it really so now it's damage control. **** me.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

So here's how I see this...

DM was not progressing like he hoped and may have wanted to ramp treatment up... med staff wanted to make sure he was available when it mattered most. He may have wanted to get into the games weeks ago but then the injury lingers... he has 32M reasons to want to play the last couple weeks of the season... even it he was hobbled.

DM hires his own staff... our staff is pissed. DM didn't clear all of our staffs requirements and they decided to hold him out... even though he may have been okay to play... almost never gonna be punished for being conservative. If they end up getting fired (not sure of the contract situation) they will get another deal elsewhere because they are well respected... maybe they even have their eyes on a market/team.

this is my "over-the-top, follow the money" conspiracy theory.

 

[LogGrad98]

He was cleared for practice though right? The med staff may have been painted into a corner by all the folks saying he will play but they have one job here. He should have at least been listed on the medical report or talked with the coaches/players saying "not so fast". Rudy was clearly blindsided. If you want to be secretive about injuries for a competitive advantage then that is great... when the secrets hurt our team that's some bull ****.

The idea of everyone being blind-sided sure explains why Quin seemed so incoherent during his 2nd half interview. If the coaching staff prep was centered around Mitchell being back and they weren't part of the final decision it would definitely **** with their ****. Terrible situation.