Mitchell injury

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Based off of what? Conley has missed a ton of games this year. So has Donavan. Also, to be clear, I'm in favor of firing both DL and the medical staff if the Jazz lose this round.

Based off league reputation, which is by far the most important metric we have for any of this. Also, the Jazz have hardly had any overuse injuries. An ankle sprain isnt something a medical team can make a player avoid. They can happen at anytime, it's basketball. Conley has had hamstring issues, but he's had those his entire career. It seems like they have managed it well and he was ready to go in Game 1 with a nice performance.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

No it's not. Kawhi situation was a medical staff playing him when he wasnt ready.

What's the point of having a medical staff if we are just going let the players do what they want? You dont get rid of a top-rated medical staff just because one player doesnt like his ankle rehab. \

You do get rid of that medical staff if the one player that doesn't trust them is your superstar. The other stuff is a slippery slope. No matter what happened they have some blame here in either the messaging or the pissing contest they are part of.

If DM was just concerned about messaging he doesn't hire his own medical staff a couple weeks ago... it is much more likely he really wants to play... that he was pissed they won't let him and that is why he's throwing them under the bus to get his way now.

I think the front office has some say here so he may be upset with them as well. They might be pissed he is working around them but they had two plus weeks to figure out how to work together... they are all "smart professionals"... yet we got a comedy of errors yesterday.

This isn't just DM is a diva and wants to appear to be an alpha.

 

[SteakNEggs]

The fact that this happened at literally the worst possible time is absolutely inexcusable. This is nothing more than ineptitude.

 

[KqWIN]

I think there is a huge difference between the mistrust of "this team doesnt give a **** about my health and will play me until I'm injured" and the mistrust of "this team is being overly cautious and babying me/maybe has my diagnosis wrong, but wrong in a way that is airing on the side of caution"

To me there's not much of a difference. Especially when Mitchell made very passive aggressive comments about the staff being unable to make progress on his ankle. He doesn't just believe the training staff is being too cautious, he also believes they weren't helping him make progress with his ankle. The end result is the same, Mitchell does not trust the training staff with his health.

 

[whatthe]

Khalid Leonard all over again. He hates Utah but doesn't want to say it.

 

[LogGrad98]

There is so much they aren't telling us it's just stupid. And it sounds like so much they aren't even telling the other players. Any situation where there is doubt they usually list the player as a "game-time decision", but to just completely remove the guy from the injured list and then scratch him at the last second leaving everyone confused as to why is a major problem. To me it feels like a failure of management. That is the responsibility of management to get this **** straightened out and make sure it is handled to the best benefit of the organization. This was botched terribly, and that is completely on management imo, regardless of the inner turmoil, that is their job. And it certainly isn't the first time it has felt like management just refuses to manage.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

To me there's not much of a difference. Especially when Mitchell made very passive aggressive comments about the staff being unable to make progress on his ankle. He doesn't just believe the training staff is being too cautious, he also believes they weren't helping him make progress with his ankle. The end result is the same, Mitchell does not trust the training staff with his health.

There also might be different treatment programs based on the goals... like i want to be 100% for the playoffs vs. I want to play in 1-2 weeks. I really, really, really think this has part to do with DM basically being left out of All-NBA in large part due to games missed. Maybe he wanted to get on the court sooner than later and they took a different approach... its like 32-35M difference.

The front office and player may have had competing goals and he didn't like that his voice didn't carry enough weight?

 

[Avery]

Nothing like picking the playoffs to decide to air our dirty laundry.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

To me there's not much of a difference. Especially when Mitchell made very passive aggressive comments about the staff being unable to make progress on his ankle. He doesn't just believe the training staff is being too cautious, he also believes they weren't helping him make progress with his ankle. The end result is the same, Mitchell does not trust the training staff with his health.

I think there is a big difference. Kawhi felt like the staff and his teammates thought he was soft and not a good teammate. Had a big contract coming up and that the organization didn't care about his long term health. Its quite a bit worse than being overly cautious and "saving a guy from himself" unless he thinks there is something nefarious with holding him out longer in the regular season to ensure he doesn't make an All NBA team.

I won't say he's a diva but I will say he's sensitive... so is Rudy. DM hasn't always handled these issues perfectly but that's okay. He might be right here... none of us really know what the training staff are like and maybe they have their own motives.

 

[JazzGal]

Apparently the Jazz are talking to the media right now. Anyone listening?

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[homeytennis]

It seems to me that the decision could have been made Friday or Saturday and then you don't have the mad scramble that occurred yesterday. You don't have to tell the Griz but then our guys are not blindsided either. I think the medical staff has to be sacrificed to the Gods now.

 

[KqWIN]

There also might be different treatment programs based on the goals... like i want to be 100% for the playoffs vs. I want to play in 1-2 weeks. I really, really, really think this has part to do with DM basically being left out of All-NBA in large part due to games missed. Maybe he wanted to get on the court sooner than later and they took a different approach... its like 32-35M difference.

The front office and player may have had competing goals and he didn't like that his voice didn't carry enough weight?

I don't doubt that DM is frustrated with missing All NBA and that this is part of this....but holding him out of this playoff game doesn't effect All NBA. He was already a full participant in practice and as I understand practices are just as physically demanding as games. You almost never see a full participant in practice not play the next game.

But like I was saying earlier, it doesn't really matter whose right. If there is no trust between training staff and player, that relationship cannot exist. If Mitchell truly was not ready to play, they needed to do a better job of communicating that to him. That is part of the job.

The fact that everybody was blindsided by this including the other players makes me think that the training staff was trying to show authority. At minimum, it is a total failure of management to have nobody on the team know what the situation is. The training staff could be 100% correct in their call, but if the players didn't know this was the case than it is still a major failure. Somebody is going to lose their job over this, and it's not Don.